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> They only have a car that can drive with a human partner behind the wheel who's ready at any second to take over and prevent it from crashing. Even that is a
by Zenzero 2y ago
> They only have a car that can drive with a human partner behind the wheel who's ready at any second to take over and prevent it from crashing.
Even that is a faulty system.
I really don't understand how people can think Tesla and Waymo are anywhere close to each other. Making a car drive itself is a much harder problem to solve than scaling production. If you look at what Tesla has, today, it is a vehicle that can sometimes drive on its own with the need for a human behind the wheel. The ability to remove the human from the front seat is the other 95% of the work. In systems like this where human lives are at stake, getting "mostly there" with FSD is essentially worthless.
The problems of logistics and scaling are well-known and well traveled. The invention of a self-driving car is not. Once Waymo has solved the issue of entering new cities and quickly gathering data to feed into their model, they've won.
- TulliusCicero 2y agoScaling production isn't the issue for Waymo, it's scaling and maintaining operational capabilities within cities at a cost that still lets them be profitable. I think it's possible, but it's definitely less trivial than scaling production of more self driving cars.
- Zenzero 2y agoThose go hand in hand. In theory the successful mass production of their vehicles should drop the cost so that they can turn a profit. The increased number of vehicles and ridership cover the staff to maintain them. As I mentioned elsewhere I would not be surprised if the plush leather seats give way to easily cleaned hard plastic chairs.
- TulliusCicero 2y agoNo, I'm saying the problem is scaling that's not just building and maintaining the cars themselves, but rather building and maintaining capability around the cars.