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Same for Linux. I only use my Windows machine for gaming these days. I'd love to get rid of the second computer under my desk.

by aftbit 2y ago

ssl-3 2y ago
I do most of my gaming with Steam, and have for a very long time. I also like running Linux, and have for an even longer time. For a fair number of years (6 or 7), I ran both Linux and Windows on the same hardware (my daily use desktop rig) using qemu and virtio tricks. That was a fun experiment that taught me a lot about virtualization. I did gaming and browsing on Windows, and more stodgy things with Linux (sometimes using an X server on Windows), and this met my goals. But a few months ago I dove in fairly deep and got Void running the hard way, with as little system-wide Poettering as possible, and started using that as a daily instead. I put Steam on there. Games, so far, Just Work. I don't know if they're running with a compatibility layer like Wine, or if they're native ports, or what. I mean, I can certainly find out -- but I don't really care enough about that when I'm in a mood for gaming. Maybe I am doing something wrong, but it seems fine.
- Cu3PO42 2y ago
  Many games work fine on Linux, and if you don't care about competitive online games, it's probably most games. I play games almost exclusively with friends these days and they tend to be those games that don't work on Linux, so I'm stuck with a Windows Dual-Boot unfortunately. Or rather: I'd rather boot Windows and deal with it than miss out on those shared experiences.
  - ssl-3 2y ago
    You're right -- that does fit my selection of games pretty well, and does explain my "Works For Me" findings. What are some (modern, ish) online games that specifically are unlikely to work with what I'm doing?
    - Cu3PO42 2y ago
      Any games employing strong anti-cheat are unlikely to work without support from the vendor. Games that do not work are e.g. Fortnite, League of Legends, Valorant, Destiny 2, ARK 2, Trials Rising. Some of these may eventually be supported, others likely never will be.
      - ssl-3 2y ago
        Ah. Gracias. That's a whole list of stuff that I have not yet had any interest in playing, but I may change my mind some day. And on that day, I will be disappointed. I think it's completely reasonable to demand that all of these titles work on Linux. I doubt it will make much difference in the world, but now that I have some examples in front of me I'm completely willing to switch my mentality from "works for me" to something a lot more pragmatic.
015a 2y ago
Linux is legit at 99% nowadays, and you actually have to hunt for examples where compatibility leaves a game at unplayable. I think something like Call of Duty might still be weird, just due to anticheat. Give it a shot; you probably won't revert back to Windows. The vast majority of issues I see people have with Linux nowadays are actually with Gnome; its generally really good, but it can sometimes cause some instability, and I've found Kde to be more pleasant.
- prophesi 2y ago
  Yep, and for games with anticheat, you can check this list[0] to see its compatibility with Linux. I've been running Gnome under Fedora for years, and the times I need to boot into Windows are becoming rarer as time goes on. It's usually just for flavor-of-the-month live service games that eventually get Steam Deck verified anyways. [0] https://areweanticheatyet.com/ https://areweanticheatyet.com/
- x0x0 2y ago
  Hey, thanks for sharing, I had no idea. If you don't mind, what distribution do you recommend if you wanted to play a couple games and have as low-hassle as possible good power management?
  - solardev 2y ago
    If you just want it for gaming, might as well put SteamOS on there? https://store.steampowered.com/steamos/buildyourown https://store.steampowered.com/steamos/buildyourown
    - mostlysimilar 2y ago
      This is an ancient version that is NOT the one supported by Valve for Steam Deck.
      - solardev 2y ago
        The Deck has a recovery image that's linked to from that page. But if you're building your own machine, can it still run the Deck image or is this version more appropriate?
sickofparadox 2y ago
Especially with Valve having pushed for anti-cheat systems to work on steam deck, proton support is getting better and better. Depending on what you play, your library may already mostly be supported. https://www.protondb.com/dashboard https://www.protondb.com/dashboard
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solardev 2y ago
Don't you guys already have Proton? If you install Steam on Linux, a lot of games will just automatically run: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton Sincerely, Jealous Mac user

Same for Linux. I only use my Windows machine for gaming these days. I'd love to get rid of the second computer under my desk.

by aftbit 2y ago

Same for Linux. I only use my Windows machine for gaming these days. I'd love to get rid of the second computer under my desk.

ssl-3 2y ago

I do most of my gaming with Steam, and have for a very long time. I also like running Linux, and have for an even longer time. For a fair number of years (6 or 7), I ran both Linux and Windows on the same hardware (my daily use desktop rig) using qemu and virtio tricks. That was a fun experiment that taught me a lot about virtualization. I did gaming and browsing on Windows, and more stodgy things with Linux (sometimes using an X server on Windows), and this met my goals. But a few months ago I dove in fairly deep and got Void running the hard way, with as little system-wide Poettering as possible, and started using that as a daily instead. I put Steam on there. Games, so far, Just Work. I don't know if they're running with a compatibility layer like Wine, or if they're native ports, or what. I mean, I can certainly find out -- but I don't really care enough about that when I'm in a mood for gaming. Maybe I am doing something wrong, but it seems fine.

Cu3PO42 2y ago
Many games work fine on Linux, and if you don't care about competitive online games, it's probably most games. I play games almost exclusively with friends these days and they tend to be those games that don't work on Linux, so I'm stuck with a Windows Dual-Boot unfortunately. Or rather: I'd rather boot Windows and deal with it than miss out on those shared experiences.
- ssl-3 2y ago
  You're right -- that does fit my selection of games pretty well, and does explain my "Works For Me" findings. What are some (modern, ish) online games that specifically are unlikely to work with what I'm doing?
  - Cu3PO42 2y ago
    Any games employing strong anti-cheat are unlikely to work without support from the vendor. Games that do not work are e.g. Fortnite, League of Legends, Valorant, Destiny 2, ARK 2, Trials Rising. Some of these may eventually be supported, others likely never will be.
    - ssl-3 2y ago
      Ah. Gracias. That's a whole list of stuff that I have not yet had any interest in playing, but I may change my mind some day. And on that day, I will be disappointed. I think it's completely reasonable to demand that all of these titles work on Linux. I doubt it will make much difference in the world, but now that I have some examples in front of me I'm completely willing to switch my mentality from "works for me" to something a lot more pragmatic.

015a 2y ago

Linux is legit at 99% nowadays, and you actually have to hunt for examples where compatibility leaves a game at unplayable. I think something like Call of Duty might still be weird, just due to anticheat. Give it a shot; you probably won't revert back to Windows. The vast majority of issues I see people have with Linux nowadays are actually with Gnome; its generally really good, but it can sometimes cause some instability, and I've found Kde to be more pleasant.

prophesi 2y ago
Yep, and for games with anticheat, you can check this list[0] to see its compatibility with Linux. I've been running Gnome under Fedora for years, and the times I need to boot into Windows are becoming rarer as time goes on. It's usually just for flavor-of-the-month live service games that eventually get Steam Deck verified anyways. [0] https://areweanticheatyet.com/ https://areweanticheatyet.com/
x0x0 2y ago
Hey, thanks for sharing, I had no idea. If you don't mind, what distribution do you recommend if you wanted to play a couple games and have as low-hassle as possible good power management?
- solardev 2y ago
  If you just want it for gaming, might as well put SteamOS on there? https://store.steampowered.com/steamos/buildyourown https://store.steampowered.com/steamos/buildyourown
  - mostlysimilar 2y ago
    This is an ancient version that is NOT the one supported by Valve for Steam Deck.
    - solardev 2y ago
      The Deck has a recovery image that's linked to from that page. But if you're building your own machine, can it still run the Deck image or is this version more appropriate?

sickofparadox 2y ago

Especially with Valve having pushed for anti-cheat systems to work on steam deck, proton support is getting better and better. Depending on what you play, your library may already mostly be supported. https://www.protondb.com/dashboard https://www.protondb.com/dashboard

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solardev 2y ago

Don't you guys already have Proton? If you install Steam on Linux, a lot of games will just automatically run: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton Sincerely, Jealous Mac user