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That’s not my point, my point is that the cost of goods (which is itself only one factor that influences pricing) is not exclusively determined by the cost of o

That’s not my point, my point is that the cost of goods (which is itself only one factor that influences pricing) is not exclusively determined by the cost of operating the network. Implementing the kind of payment network that the cards brands have is incredibly costly upfront, which requires developing all the IP, implementing all the systems, and establishing business relationships with millions and millions of parties to get the network in place. Now that they’ve committed to all that upfront cost, where does the moral authority to impose price controls on them come from? It costs Adobe close to $0 to allow me to install creative suite, so why should the price to me not also be close to $0? The outcome of this sort of regulation is that nobody wants to invest in establishing or innovating large networks like this. Which is why all the recent innovation in payments has been centred around terrible, highly fragmented, in-app payments and EMIs, and that’s certainly not a win for consumers.

lxgr 2y ago
Oh, that's all things I'd roll into "costs of operating the network". Maybe my usage of network is slightly confusing here; I usually mean it to include the "scheme" and "brand" parts too. That's certainly much more than just the cost of running the technical network, but also, as we can see from the above calculation, clearly one of the smaller components of the 3.5% (since the lion's share goes to the issuers). In that sense, the networks really do compete – for the issuers' business! Issuers then compete with each other for cardholders by paying out cashbacks, but what many find missing is competition with these dynamics as a whole. Making that cost explicit in the form of credit card surcharges might have been a path there (I'm not sure if I'd have been a fan myself), but since this settlement is now off the table, let's see what the next move is.

lxgr 2y ago

Oh, that's all things I'd roll into "costs of operating the network". Maybe my usage of network is slightly confusing here; I usually mean it to include the "scheme" and "brand" parts too. That's certainly much more than just the cost of running the technical network, but also, as we can see from the above calculation, clearly one of the smaller components of the 3.5% (since the lion's share goes to the issuers). In that sense, the networks really do compete – for the issuers' business! Issuers then compete with each other for cardholders by paying out cashbacks, but what many find missing is competition with these dynamics as a whole. Making that cost explicit in the form of credit card surcharges might have been a path there (I'm not sure if I'd have been a fan myself), but since this settlement is now off the table, let's see what the next move is.