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> And tolerating these different preferences, desires, views, systems, values, and so on is the only possible way we might ever achieve something resembling a m

> And tolerating these different preferences, desires, views, systems, values, and so on is the only possible way we might ever achieve something resembling a more stable and desirable world order. How can one tolerate the abuses that went on behind the iron curtain and other dictatorships? Even if some people are still fond of them, it's unacceptable for such systems to exist and those people are morally reprehensible.

somenameforme 2y ago
Well the USSR no longer exists, and so I think that specific question is a nonstarter. But generalizing? This gets back to what we were talking about earlier. Look at any country with power and you're going to find quite a lot of the world would think the world would be a better place without that country, in many cases the majority of the world. And this will never change, because people hold many views that are simply mutually exclusive, and we always will. So we can continue to fight and kill each other until the point somebody finally goes all the way and we end up nuking ourselves out of existence, or we can learn to tolerate one another - even when we really don't like the other guy.
- adriancr 2y ago
  > Well the USSR no longer exists, and so I think that specific question is a nonstarter. Russia still exists and is unchanged in behavior but much less powerful. So something went right, just not enough. > Look at any country with power Some are much better then others and always have been. > And this will never change, That's what they used to say about monarchies. > so we can continue to fight and kill each other Fighting back and forcing change is justified. It's not like the other side is standing still and not trying to destabilize us. > and we end up nuking ourselves out of existence We haven't in worse conditions. > or we can learn to tolerate one another - even when we really don't like the other guy. Tolerating abuses is unacceptable.

somenameforme 2y ago

Well the USSR no longer exists, and so I think that specific question is a nonstarter. But generalizing? This gets back to what we were talking about earlier. Look at any country with power and you're going to find quite a lot of the world would think the world would be a better place without that country, in many cases the majority of the world. And this will never change, because people hold many views that are simply mutually exclusive, and we always will. So we can continue to fight and kill each other until the point somebody finally goes all the way and we end up nuking ourselves out of existence, or we can learn to tolerate one another - even when we really don't like the other guy.

adriancr 2y ago
> Well the USSR no longer exists, and so I think that specific question is a nonstarter. Russia still exists and is unchanged in behavior but much less powerful. So something went right, just not enough. > Look at any country with power Some are much better then others and always have been. > And this will never change, That's what they used to say about monarchies. > so we can continue to fight and kill each other Fighting back and forcing change is justified. It's not like the other side is standing still and not trying to destabilize us. > and we end up nuking ourselves out of existence We haven't in worse conditions. > or we can learn to tolerate one another - even when we really don't like the other guy. Tolerating abuses is unacceptable.