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That's kind of like saying, "This isn't Space-X anything, it's just private space travel." Singapore is the canonical example of competent local government. T

by lisper 2y ago

That's kind of like saying, "This isn't Space-X anything, it's just private space travel." Singapore is the canonical example of competent local government. That is the whole point.

JCharante 2y ago
The listed examples are very mediocre compared to Singapore though. Truthfully the US has no square mile of land that is comparable to the demographics and infrastructure of Singapore.
- harimau777 2y ago
  On the other hand, Singapore has some significant civil liberties issues. I think it's plausible that it may be better to accept somewhat less efficiency than Singapore in exchange for greater civil liberties.
onlytime 2y ago
Singapore as the benchmark for "competent local government" seems flawed. Ignoring decades of corruption incidents[1], it's also plagued with human rights abuses, including significant volumes of human trafficking[2]. As a nation-state, it's still extremely enthusiastic about draconian punishments and the death penalty. The state is full of moral decay; worst of all, its former prime minister is reading about Haskell in his semi-retirement[3]. The latter example of moral decay is not unique to Singapore (he is not the only senior national government official to decline into Haskell usage in Southeast Asia), but it is not a good sign of national health. There are better "canonical examples" of competent local government, like Zurich, Geneva, or Vienna. All of which are generally rated higher in HDI than Singapore, none of which have the death penalty, and none of which have government officials who are Haskell programmers. 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Singapore#Notable_incidents https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Singapore#Notabl... 2: https://www.amnestyusa.org/countries/singapore/ https://www.amnestyusa.org/countries/singapore/ 3: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/05/prime-minister-of-singapore-shares-his-c-code-for-sudoku-solver/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/05/prime...
- threeseed 2y ago
  Functional programmers ruining cities as well as codebases.
  - pyrale 2y ago
    I had the same questioning reading about haskell in this thread. And my search tool is so biased by past searchs that it won't tell me what else haskell means.
  - throwaway2037 2y ago
    You got me. Normally, I downvote these Reddit-type of comments, but this comment just has too much bloody wit. And, I say that with no hate for functional programming concepts.
  - Trexman 2y ago
    >“Functional programmers ruining cities as well as codebases.” The information [and communication] technology {I.[C.]T.} boom at the beginning of the millenium & especially at the beginning of the 2010s – where you've had banks, investment firms, and angel investors just throwing away their money to anything relating to computing, communications, hardware, and software – had two aims that are publicly known: quantum computing and machine-learning technology (later known as artificial intelligence). They figured out quantum computing sometime in the ±2015. Machine-learning, A.I., took a bit longer but it's here – confirmed at the beginning of the 2020s. Now, I.T. has served its original mission and it's relegated to maintenance & routine work for the [already] existing infrastructure. Self-serving, self-important, self-fulfilling prophecy; who knew!?
- richrichie 2y ago
  Hong Kong used to be pretty good. Government services were quite efficient. Business friendly. Excellent healthcare. Low taxes. Low crime rate. All of Singapore's positives minus the negatives. Not sure how it is these days.
  - throwaway2037 2y ago

by lisper 2y ago

That's kind of like saying, "This isn't Space-X anything, it's just private space travel." Singapore is the canonical example of competent local government. That is the whole point.

JCharante 2y ago

The listed examples are very mediocre compared to Singapore though. Truthfully the US has no square mile of land that is comparable to the demographics and infrastructure of Singapore.

harimau777 2y ago
On the other hand, Singapore has some significant civil liberties issues. I think it's plausible that it may be better to accept somewhat less efficiency than Singapore in exchange for greater civil liberties.

onlytime 2y ago

Singapore as the benchmark for "competent local government" seems flawed. Ignoring decades of corruption incidents[1], it's also plagued with human rights abuses, including significant volumes of human trafficking[2]. As a nation-state, it's still extremely enthusiastic about draconian punishments and the death penalty. The state is full of moral decay; worst of all, its former prime minister is reading about Haskell in his semi-retirement[3]. The latter example of moral decay is not unique to Singapore (he is not the only senior national government official to decline into Haskell usage in Southeast Asia), but it is not a good sign of national health. There are better "canonical examples" of competent local government, like Zurich, Geneva, or Vienna. All of which are generally rated higher in HDI than Singapore, none of which have the death penalty, and none of which have government officials who are Haskell programmers. 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Singapore#Notable_incidents https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Singapore#Notabl... 2: https://www.amnestyusa.org/countries/singapore/ https://www.amnestyusa.org/countries/singapore/ 3: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/05/prime-minister-of-singapore-shares-his-c-code-for-sudoku-solver/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/05/prime...

threeseed 2y ago
Functional programmers ruining cities as well as codebases.
- pyrale 2y ago
  I had the same questioning reading about haskell in this thread. And my search tool is so biased by past searchs that it won't tell me what else haskell means.
- throwaway2037 2y ago
  You got me. Normally, I downvote these Reddit-type of comments, but this comment just has too much bloody wit. And, I say that with no hate for functional programming concepts.
- Trexman 2y ago
  >“Functional programmers ruining cities as well as codebases.” The information [and communication] technology {I.[C.]T.} boom at the beginning of the millenium & especially at the beginning of the 2010s – where you've had banks, investment firms, and angel investors just throwing away their money to anything relating to computing, communications, hardware, and software – had two aims that are publicly known: quantum computing and machine-learning technology (later known as artificial intelligence). They figured out quantum computing sometime in the ±2015. Machine-learning, A.I., took a bit longer but it's here – confirmed at the beginning of the 2020s. Now, I.T. has served its original mission and it's relegated to maintenance & routine work for the [already] existing infrastructure. Self-serving, self-important, self-fulfilling prophecy; who knew!?
richrichie 2y ago
Hong Kong used to be pretty good. Government services were quite efficient. Business friendly. Excellent healthcare. Low taxes. Low crime rate. All of Singapore's positives minus the negatives. Not sure how it is these days.
- throwaway2037 2y ago