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>My last Windows OS is Windows XP and I've never been unemployed. Like I said, not every office worker is a front-end dev. In other industries you have no choi

>My last Windows OS is Windows XP and I've never been unemployed. Like I said, not every office worker is a front-end dev. In other industries you have no choice but unemployment. Your lack of empathy towards other classes is showing. >Going through the Windows stack has significant disadvantages to your career as well. I don't know many but I've never met a .NET or SharePoint dev who's unemployed. On the contrary. All those crusty non-IT corporations seem to pay very well for others to fix their Microsoft stack. Maybe take your head out of the sand and see the real world.

realusername 2y ago
I'm not a front-end dev either. It's not about "empathy", it's a market, you either play along the market or you suffer from it.
- Rinzler89 2y ago
  Show me the employees suffering.
  - realusername 2y ago
    It's in your own example, you are less likely to find remote working, modern development practices or competitive salary at your average SharePoint gig compared to your average fullstack, devops or data engineering job.
    - Rinzler89 2y ago
      I don't think you know the meaning of the world suffering. And data science and IT infra/support are different career choices that differ around skills and education rather than choice of OS vendor. Those jobs are not interchangeable.
      - realusername 2y ago
        Sure, if they are happy with those tradeoffs, that's good for them.
        Rinzler89 2y ago
        Even if otherwise, it's not like you can move from .NET dev to DS jobs on a whim whithout any kind of experience or specialization. And where I live .NET jobs are far more abundant and better paid than DS jobs which are few and have loads of coopetition from newgrads due to all they hype they genrated.
        realusername 2y ago
        That's exactly what I meant by suffering from the market yeah. That's another reason why I'm not working on windows. I'm enjoying higher salaries and better working conditions thanks to that. Also development is a global market nowadays so that makes it even worse for this kind of jobs since they don't usually offer a remote option. It's telling that you say "where I live", where I live there's just no development job at all actually.
        Rinzler89 2y ago
        You still haven't proven how those people making a living on .NET/Microsoft stacks careers are suffering. Habe you actually seen people suffering, like from war and poverty? Also, dvelopment careers being "global" is mostly in theory. In practice it doesn't work everywhere. Some countries don't have global remote work opportunities due to tax and labor laws making that very difficult meaning you're stuck with what the local market offers. And those few global remote jobs get hundreds of applications so actually getting one is almost impossible especially in the current bear market. There's no shortage of full stack developers globally willing to work for cheap. Competing globally in this race to the bottom is no good if you work in a high CoL area unless you score a high paying FaNG or scale-up but getting such jobs is insanely competitive that's not realistic for most people I know.

realusername 2y ago

I'm not a front-end dev either. It's not about "empathy", it's a market, you either play along the market or you suffer from it.

Rinzler89 2y ago
Show me the employees suffering.
- realusername 2y ago
  It's in your own example, you are less likely to find remote working, modern development practices or competitive salary at your average SharePoint gig compared to your average fullstack, devops or data engineering job.
  - Rinzler89 2y ago
    I don't think you know the meaning of the world suffering. And data science and IT infra/support are different career choices that differ around skills and education rather than choice of OS vendor. Those jobs are not interchangeable.
    - realusername 2y ago
      Sure, if they are happy with those tradeoffs, that's good for them.
      - Rinzler89 2y ago
        Even if otherwise, it's not like you can move from .NET dev to DS jobs on a whim whithout any kind of experience or specialization. And where I live .NET jobs are far more abundant and better paid than DS jobs which are few and have loads of coopetition from newgrads due to all they hype they genrated.
        realusername 2y ago
        That's exactly what I meant by suffering from the market yeah. That's another reason why I'm not working on windows. I'm enjoying higher salaries and better working conditions thanks to that. Also development is a global market nowadays so that makes it even worse for this kind of jobs since they don't usually offer a remote option. It's telling that you say "where I live", where I live there's just no development job at all actually.
        Rinzler89 2y ago
        You still haven't proven how those people making a living on .NET/Microsoft stacks careers are suffering. Habe you actually seen people suffering, like from war and poverty? Also, dvelopment careers being "global" is mostly in theory. In practice it doesn't work everywhere. Some countries don't have global remote work opportunities due to tax and labor laws making that very difficult meaning you're stuck with what the local market offers. And those few global remote jobs get hundreds of applications so actually getting one is almost impossible especially in the current bear market. There's no shortage of full stack developers globally willing to work for cheap. Competing globally in this race to the bottom is no good if you work in a high CoL area unless you score a high paying FaNG or scale-up but getting such jobs is insanely competitive that's not realistic for most people I know.