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> Three to six months of 1.5x pay just to have to look for a job again and you probably haven't done any meaningful work in the last three to six months? Hard

> Three to six months of 1.5x pay just to have to look for a job again and you probably haven't done any meaningful work in the last three to six months? Hard disagree. They're not really looking to extend full employment to people like you, but may from time to time. If you're really that good you have nothing to worry about. I'm speaking from experience working on both ends of the contract-to-hire process.

busterarm 2y ago
If I'm really that good I have another contract lined up already and I'm out the door. The only way you're getting me back is with a fulltime offer after my next contract ends. Or you're buying me out. Might as well skip the games. I've been on both sides of it too and I would never hire that way looking for good, experienced people. My experience with people successful at work is that they're successful in other endeavors too such as their private life. Experience also tells me that most peoples' life partners are extremely intolerant of career uncertainty, unless as a couple they are both very young.
- sublinear 2y ago
  > Experience also tells me that most peoples' life partners are extremely intolerant of career uncertainty, unless as a couple they are both very young. I can only laugh at this statement.
  - busterarm 2y ago
    You can but it's pretty naive. The effects of layoffs and non-fulltime employment on families have been well studied with all of the conclusions that one should expect. I know multiple guys with wildly successful side-hustles, years-long backlogs of clients and more than enough income to exceed their day jobs and their wives absolutely will not allow them to leave their fulltime jobs because they're fearful of the risks of self-employment. These are the kind of men that put their family as their first priority. If you're only in the business of hiring kids, maybe you're entitled to your perspective but that's not somewhere I'm looking to work.
    - sublinear 2y ago
      I'm not hiring kids. This is the world we've come to. I understand your perspective, but have you considered that times have changed? Your most recent reference to this idea is over 20 years ago. The nuclear family, and especially wives aren't relevant anymore. This isn't even an about inflation. There's an entire cohort you're not looking at and they're about to eat your lunch and so is your wife :D

busterarm 2y ago

If I'm really that good I have another contract lined up already and I'm out the door. The only way you're getting me back is with a fulltime offer after my next contract ends. Or you're buying me out. Might as well skip the games. I've been on both sides of it too and I would never hire that way looking for good, experienced people. My experience with people successful at work is that they're successful in other endeavors too such as their private life. Experience also tells me that most peoples' life partners are extremely intolerant of career uncertainty, unless as a couple they are both very young.

sublinear 2y ago
> Experience also tells me that most peoples' life partners are extremely intolerant of career uncertainty, unless as a couple they are both very young. I can only laugh at this statement.
- busterarm 2y ago
  You can but it's pretty naive. The effects of layoffs and non-fulltime employment on families have been well studied with all of the conclusions that one should expect. I know multiple guys with wildly successful side-hustles, years-long backlogs of clients and more than enough income to exceed their day jobs and their wives absolutely will not allow them to leave their fulltime jobs because they're fearful of the risks of self-employment. These are the kind of men that put their family as their first priority. If you're only in the business of hiring kids, maybe you're entitled to your perspective but that's not somewhere I'm looking to work.
  - sublinear 2y ago
    I'm not hiring kids. This is the world we've come to. I understand your perspective, but have you considered that times have changed? Your most recent reference to this idea is over 20 years ago. The nuclear family, and especially wives aren't relevant anymore. This isn't even an about inflation. There's an entire cohort you're not looking at and they're about to eat your lunch and so is your wife :D