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I had a friend get charged with cultivation in 1982 for 200 female plants. His lawyer called in lots of witnesses that Geoff smoked a _lot_ of dope, and that i

I had a friend get charged with cultivation in 1982 for 200 female plants. His lawyer called in lots of witnesses that Geoff smoked a _lot_ of dope, and that it was for personal use. He also presented a petition with nearly half his village saying it was personal use, as he really smoked a _lot_ of dope. He also helped anyone with any task, and was a generally loved person, not a drug crazed maniac, but very very chill. He was fined for personal use. This was Australia, not Brazil, but Judges are supposed to use discretion. The only problem is when discretion is code for prejudice, not justice.

lukevp 2y ago
I’m not sure I get the point of this story. Is it that he was lying? 200 plants is ridiculous for personal use. Even 20 is ridiculous.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > 200 plants is ridiculous for personal use. Even 20 is ridiculous. Out of curiosity, why? (Not a big weed guy.)
  - lukevp 2y ago
    You can get over 16 oz of dried flower per plant if you grow outdoors in ideal conditions. Even with a super low final yield of only 1 oz per plant (this would be a beginner’s yield growing indoors, not someone with 200 plants), that would still be 200 oz of dried flower. 1 oz is like a year supply for an average person. I could see a heavy user getting through an ounce a month maybe? So this is still 10x what anyone would ever need, and that’s if you were a very inexperienced grower.
    - metachris 2y ago
      1ox seems like a year's supply for an average person. A really heavy smoker can consume up to several grams a day. Let's say 5 grams, that'd be 150g per month (5oz per month). Agree that it's hard to argue for 200 plants being personal use; 20 would be more realistic. For 200 plants, it's a big operation! Also, you can grow them in like 3-month cycles too.
      - Retric 2y ago
        Someone smoking 5oz per month is likely making poor decisions. But I think a more reasonable explanation is they were trying multiple different strains or growing conditions. They may expect to toss out a fair bit of sub par pot.
        voganmother42 2y ago
        I use 5oz a month, and I am a productive member of society, this is silly talk - drugs impact people very differently.
    - viridian 2y ago
      A heavy user in your mind smokes about a quarter to a third of a single blunt a day? I'd say you are off by close to an order of magnitude.
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vincnetas 2y ago
"nearly half his village" was concerned that they will not have what to smoke if Geoff would go away :)
- Ekaros 2y ago
  That is some happy and loyal customers if they are willing to commit perjury for you. This is kind of loyalty you should go for in business.
- ithkuil 2y ago
  Por que no los dos? Probably all what they said was factually true and still they may be worried that without him it would be harder to get weed in the village
the_other 2y ago
Was the village Nimbin?
- Perenti 2y ago
  No, but in the general vicinity, in the Tweed Valley...

lukevp 2y ago

I’m not sure I get the point of this story. Is it that he was lying? 200 plants is ridiculous for personal use. Even 20 is ridiculous.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> 200 plants is ridiculous for personal use. Even 20 is ridiculous. Out of curiosity, why? (Not a big weed guy.)
- lukevp 2y ago
  You can get over 16 oz of dried flower per plant if you grow outdoors in ideal conditions. Even with a super low final yield of only 1 oz per plant (this would be a beginner’s yield growing indoors, not someone with 200 plants), that would still be 200 oz of dried flower. 1 oz is like a year supply for an average person. I could see a heavy user getting through an ounce a month maybe? So this is still 10x what anyone would ever need, and that’s if you were a very inexperienced grower.
  - metachris 2y ago
    1ox seems like a year's supply for an average person. A really heavy smoker can consume up to several grams a day. Let's say 5 grams, that'd be 150g per month (5oz per month). Agree that it's hard to argue for 200 plants being personal use; 20 would be more realistic. For 200 plants, it's a big operation! Also, you can grow them in like 3-month cycles too.
    - Retric 2y ago
      Someone smoking 5oz per month is likely making poor decisions. But I think a more reasonable explanation is they were trying multiple different strains or growing conditions. They may expect to toss out a fair bit of sub par pot.
      - voganmother42 2y ago
        I use 5oz a month, and I am a productive member of society, this is silly talk - drugs impact people very differently.
  - viridian 2y ago
    A heavy user in your mind smokes about a quarter to a third of a single blunt a day? I'd say you are off by close to an order of magnitude.
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vincnetas 2y ago

"nearly half his village" was concerned that they will not have what to smoke if Geoff would go away :)

Ekaros 2y ago
That is some happy and loyal customers if they are willing to commit perjury for you. This is kind of loyalty you should go for in business.
ithkuil 2y ago
Por que no los dos? Probably all what they said was factually true and still they may be worried that without him it would be harder to get weed in the village

the_other 2y ago

Was the village Nimbin?

Perenti 2y ago
No, but in the general vicinity, in the Tweed Valley...