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I don't know what 'deeply understanding tech' has to do with any of that. Plenty of people who 'deeply understand tech' get drunk and puke in places. Honestly,

I don't know what 'deeply understanding tech' has to do with any of that. Plenty of people who 'deeply understand tech' get drunk and puke in places. Honestly, you sound like a Victorian-era petty lord looking down his nose at 'commoners'.

dventimi 2y ago
Bingo
- fragmede 2y ago
  and you said it wasn't a loaded question. That was intellectually dishonest of you.
  - dventimi 2y ago
    I don't think you understand what "loaded question" means.
    - fragmede 2y ago
      A loaded question is a trick question, which presupposes at least one unverified assumption that the person being questioned is likely to disagree with.
      - dventimi 2y ago
        Can you quote my question back to me and point out the presumption that the person is likely to disagree with?
        dventimi 2y ago
        I'll take that as a "no".
        fragmede 2y ago
        Take it however you want. You know what you're doing and it's intellectually dishonest.
        dventimi 2y ago
        You said that already.
groby_b 2y ago
You read the part where I said the understanding constrains the existing user base from antisocial behavior, right? This isn't about "commoners". It's that any large group of people contains assholes, assholes restrain themselves depending on circumstances, and the new users might well lack that understanding. It's fundamentally not about "commoners", but about a knowledge-based restraint falling away. (As for the "commoners", you might also want to read the last part of my comment, instead of outraging)
- Eisenstein 2y ago
  The fact that a critique by someone else of what they think you sound like makes you accuse them of 'outrage' is exactly why you sound like a snob.
  - groby_b 2y ago
    If that person had done me the courtesy of actually reading, I wouldn't object.
    - Eisenstein 2y ago
      That person did read it, and the fact that you believe anything you wrote in the entire comment would not contribute to the notion that your are a classist snob is hilarious.

dventimi 2y ago

Bingo

fragmede 2y ago
and you said it wasn't a loaded question. That was intellectually dishonest of you.
- dventimi 2y ago
  I don't think you understand what "loaded question" means.
  - fragmede 2y ago
    A loaded question is a trick question, which presupposes at least one unverified assumption that the person being questioned is likely to disagree with.
    - dventimi 2y ago
      Can you quote my question back to me and point out the presumption that the person is likely to disagree with?
      - dventimi 2y ago
        I'll take that as a "no".
        fragmede 2y ago
        Take it however you want. You know what you're doing and it's intellectually dishonest.
        dventimi 2y ago
        You said that already.

groby_b 2y ago

You read the part where I said the understanding constrains the existing user base from antisocial behavior, right? This isn't about "commoners". It's that any large group of people contains assholes, assholes restrain themselves depending on circumstances, and the new users might well lack that understanding. It's fundamentally not about "commoners", but about a knowledge-based restraint falling away. (As for the "commoners", you might also want to read the last part of my comment, instead of outraging)

Eisenstein 2y ago
The fact that a critique by someone else of what they think you sound like makes you accuse them of 'outrage' is exactly why you sound like a snob.
- groby_b 2y ago
  If that person had done me the courtesy of actually reading, I wouldn't object.
  - Eisenstein 2y ago
    That person did read it, and the fact that you believe anything you wrote in the entire comment would not contribute to the notion that your are a classist snob is hilarious.