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The biggest problem with cleaning is that compared to Uber where there's a human driver, the autonomy factor will almost certainly lead to more people fucking s

The biggest problem with cleaning is that compared to Uber where there's a human driver, the autonomy factor will almost certainly lead to more people fucking shit up simply because they can. Look at anything else that goes unattended in the public way: ebikes, delivery bot things, scooters... nasty combo of "I want to fuck with The Man" and "haha nobody is here watching I don't need to be as careful with my messy sandwich"

Rebelgecko 2y ago
Waymos do have interior cameras, so if you puke in the backseat you can't blame it on the previous rider
foota 2y ago
It's probably a little bit better since a car is a closed environment. That won't save it entirely, but it'll at least mitigate the issue I expect as compared to e.g., a public bus.
meowkit 2y ago
Thats silly. The cars are private property and full of cameras being monitored by a tech giant. I’m sure the account agreement is going to require you to to accept being charged egregious bills for damaging or dirty-ing the cabin
- jfengel 2y ago
  It is indeed silly. And yet every taxi driver has plenty of horror stories, and that's with a human sitting there.
  - hilbertseries 2y ago
    Taxis have basically no recourse if you just ditch. Waymo has a video of you, your full name, your billing address and your credit card on file.
    - ModernMech 2y ago
      So do hotels, I guess that’s why no hotel room has ever been trashed.
      - Anotheroneagain 2y ago
        I guess that's why no hotel lets you pay cash.
        gambiting 2y ago
        What? Plenty of hotels let you pay cash. Or is that sarcasm?
        vkou 2y ago
        They'll accept cash if you fork out a $300 deposit, and the people who are likely to both pay cash and trash a room rarely have that much extra money on hand. A friend of mine works night audit in a rough part of the valley. As soon as he says the magic words 'we require a major credit card or a $300 deposit', they immediately hang up.
        miki123211 2y ago
        This heavily depends on the country, plenty of places in the US and other credit-card-loving countries are credit (and specifically credit, NOT debit) card only for this reason. Plenty of tourists from countries where such cards aren't as popular get bitten by this.
        crazygringo 2y ago
        I've never been to a hotel that didn't require a valid credit card as a hold for security when checking in. Sure you can pay in cash at the end if you want. But you can't get a room in the first place without a credit card, even if they never charge it. (I mean I'm sure there are some exceptions somewhere, but generally speaking, no, cash isn't sufficient.)
      - x-complexity 2y ago
Zenzero 2y ago
That's my biggest concern too. My fear is in 20 years nobody will be excited to go in these because the interiors will be whittled down to dilapidated NY subway seats.
- aeyes 2y ago
  Once these become more common I am sure they'll adapt the interior to be more similar to the subway (plastic seats, no carpet, hard plastic everywhere) instead of having luxury car seats.
TulliusCicero 2y ago
You need an account, probably with a credit card, if you're gonna ride. If you intentionally mess up the car, you'll probably just get banned from the service.
dilyevsky 2y ago
1. The cars are not unattended 2. Public transit and the like get rekt because they are cheap and there is no consequences whatsoever. When you get $400 full detail bill like they do for rentals and/or get banned for life (even as a +1 because they have your face) that tends to have a chilling effect

Rebelgecko 2y ago

Waymos do have interior cameras, so if you puke in the backseat you can't blame it on the previous rider

foota 2y ago

It's probably a little bit better since a car is a closed environment. That won't save it entirely, but it'll at least mitigate the issue I expect as compared to e.g., a public bus.

meowkit 2y ago

Thats silly. The cars are private property and full of cameras being monitored by a tech giant. I’m sure the account agreement is going to require you to to accept being charged egregious bills for damaging or dirty-ing the cabin

jfengel 2y ago
It is indeed silly. And yet every taxi driver has plenty of horror stories, and that's with a human sitting there.
- hilbertseries 2y ago
  Taxis have basically no recourse if you just ditch. Waymo has a video of you, your full name, your billing address and your credit card on file.
  - ModernMech 2y ago
    So do hotels, I guess that’s why no hotel room has ever been trashed.
    - Anotheroneagain 2y ago
      I guess that's why no hotel lets you pay cash.
      - gambiting 2y ago
        What? Plenty of hotels let you pay cash. Or is that sarcasm?
        vkou 2y ago
        They'll accept cash if you fork out a $300 deposit, and the people who are likely to both pay cash and trash a room rarely have that much extra money on hand. A friend of mine works night audit in a rough part of the valley. As soon as he says the magic words 'we require a major credit card or a $300 deposit', they immediately hang up.
        miki123211 2y ago
        This heavily depends on the country, plenty of places in the US and other credit-card-loving countries are credit (and specifically credit, NOT debit) card only for this reason. Plenty of tourists from countries where such cards aren't as popular get bitten by this.
      - crazygringo 2y ago
        I've never been to a hotel that didn't require a valid credit card as a hold for security when checking in. Sure you can pay in cash at the end if you want. But you can't get a room in the first place without a credit card, even if they never charge it. (I mean I'm sure there are some exceptions somewhere, but generally speaking, no, cash isn't sufficient.)
    - x-complexity 2y ago

Zenzero 2y ago

That's my biggest concern too. My fear is in 20 years nobody will be excited to go in these because the interiors will be whittled down to dilapidated NY subway seats.

aeyes 2y ago
Once these become more common I am sure they'll adapt the interior to be more similar to the subway (plastic seats, no carpet, hard plastic everywhere) instead of having luxury car seats.

TulliusCicero 2y ago

You need an account, probably with a credit card, if you're gonna ride. If you intentionally mess up the car, you'll probably just get banned from the service.

dilyevsky 2y ago

1. The cars are not unattended 2. Public transit and the like get rekt because they are cheap and there is no consequences whatsoever. When you get $400 full detail bill like they do for rentals and/or get banned for life (even as a +1 because they have your face) that tends to have a chilling effect