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> Google is not a market leader Do you have stats that show this? "Market share" sites never feel very trustworthy to me, but they all claim Google Workspace h

> Google is not a market leader Do you have stats that show this? "Market share" sites never feel very trustworthy to me, but they all claim Google Workspace has a substantially higher market share than Office 365, and anecdotally that matches my experience. > addition, they don't have offline tools to separate from their workspace This doesn't make sense to me as an argument. It sounds like you're saying that because Google hasn't bothered providing an offline version of their product they get a pass on bundling collaboration software, whereas because Microsoft provides an offline version that makes their bundling more egregious. Why exactly would that be?

OJFord 2y ago
> they all claim Google Workspace has a substantially higher market share than Office 365, and anecdotally that matches my experience. I 100% believe that is your experience as 'HN-commenting SWE/tech bro/STEM worker', but just as strongly doubt that that is correct in the broader market.
- lolinder 2y ago
  Like I said, every source I found claims the same thing. Do you have data showing it as a distant second?
  - OJFord 2y ago
    I see that too on Statists for example, which doesn't state a methodology that I can see but I suspect it's users (every Gmail account?) or 'I have used Docs/Word365'. This site claims Office365 absolutely dwarfs Google Workspace in # business customers/licences , which is more in line with my expectation: https://www.bybrand.io/blog/market-share/amp/ https://www.bybrand.io/blog/market-share/amp/
    - FreakLegion 2y ago
      That sounds about right. I routinely dig through cybersecurity data from around 100k companies, and Microsoft has no real competition. Occasionally I see Google at a little 500-person up-and-comer, but almost never in the enterprise, and they show up less and less as the companies get bigger. I don't think I've ever seen them in the Fortune 100, for example, other than at Google itself. The world runs on Exchange and Office.

OJFord 2y ago

> they all claim Google Workspace has a substantially higher market share than Office 365, and anecdotally that matches my experience. I 100% believe that is your experience as 'HN-commenting SWE/tech bro/STEM worker', but just as strongly doubt that that is correct in the broader market.

lolinder 2y ago
Like I said, every source I found claims the same thing. Do you have data showing it as a distant second?
- OJFord 2y ago
  I see that too on Statists for example, which doesn't state a methodology that I can see but I suspect it's users (every Gmail account?) or 'I have used Docs/Word365'. This site claims Office365 absolutely dwarfs Google Workspace in # business customers/licences , which is more in line with my expectation: https://www.bybrand.io/blog/market-share/amp/ https://www.bybrand.io/blog/market-share/amp/
  - FreakLegion 2y ago
    That sounds about right. I routinely dig through cybersecurity data from around 100k companies, and Microsoft has no real competition. Occasionally I see Google at a little 500-person up-and-comer, but almost never in the enterprise, and they show up less and less as the companies get bigger. I don't think I've ever seen them in the Fortune 100, for example, other than at Google itself. The world runs on Exchange and Office.