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So you’re okay with a feature not existing for customers who want because the government deigns that they shouldn’t have it? You really want the government taki

So you’re okay with a feature not existing for customers who want because the government deigns that they shouldn’t have it? You really want the government taking away your agency to make your own choices?

immibis 2y ago
I'm okay with bad things not existing and I'm okay with Apple throwing a tantrum and going home because the government says it can't do bad things. It can miss out on all that juicy revenue if it wants to, and the world will be better for it.
- scarface_74 2y ago
  So Apple Intelligence “is a bad thing” because from day one they don’t have interoperability? Does that serve customers in the EU better? What juicy revenue do you think they were going to get from iPhone mirroring to the Mac? And the EU as a whole is less than 10% of their revenue?
  - talldayo 2y ago
    > So Apple Intelligence “is a bad thing” because from day one they don’t have interoperability? Does that serve customers in the EU better? Yes
frankvdwaal 2y ago
I for one am absolutely against features not existing for customers who want it just because the Apple deigns that they shouldn’t have it. I don't want Apple to take away my agency to make my own choices. Good thing governments are on the side of the consumer at least, right?
- scarface_74 2y ago
  Apple thought the risk of including it was too high because of the DMA. Users in the US and the rest of the world do have it. And we talking about the same EU government that every other year tries to make it a law that there must be a backdoor in messaging platforms?
  - talldayo 2y ago
    > And we talking about the same EU government that every other year tries to make it a law that there must be a backdoor in messaging platforms? And the same Apple that puts them there: https://support.apple.com/en-us/111754 https://support.apple.com/en-us/111754 But hey, at least Apple is more principled than those filthy, corrupt and privacy destroying governments. They would never kowtow to a higher power, our stout and beloved Apple.

immibis 2y ago

I'm okay with bad things not existing and I'm okay with Apple throwing a tantrum and going home because the government says it can't do bad things. It can miss out on all that juicy revenue if it wants to, and the world will be better for it.

scarface_74 2y ago
So Apple Intelligence “is a bad thing” because from day one they don’t have interoperability? Does that serve customers in the EU better? What juicy revenue do you think they were going to get from iPhone mirroring to the Mac? And the EU as a whole is less than 10% of their revenue?
- talldayo 2y ago
  > So Apple Intelligence “is a bad thing” because from day one they don’t have interoperability? Does that serve customers in the EU better? Yes

frankvdwaal 2y ago

I for one am absolutely against features not existing for customers who want it just because the Apple deigns that they shouldn’t have it. I don't want Apple to take away my agency to make my own choices. Good thing governments are on the side of the consumer at least, right?

scarface_74 2y ago
Apple thought the risk of including it was too high because of the DMA. Users in the US and the rest of the world do have it. And we talking about the same EU government that every other year tries to make it a law that there must be a backdoor in messaging platforms?
- talldayo 2y ago
  > And we talking about the same EU government that every other year tries to make it a law that there must be a backdoor in messaging platforms? And the same Apple that puts them there: https://support.apple.com/en-us/111754 https://support.apple.com/en-us/111754 But hey, at least Apple is more principled than those filthy, corrupt and privacy destroying governments. They would never kowtow to a higher power, our stout and beloved Apple.