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The obvious thing to do is to just have every Waymo robotaxi or car with licensed Waymo tech report in its daily mapping/obstacle data to the mothership, so you

The obvious thing to do is to just have every Waymo robotaxi or car with licensed Waymo tech report in its daily mapping/obstacle data to the mothership, so you can get new changes almost immediately. I dunno if said data would be as high quality as dedicated HD mapping cars, but it's probably at least decent, given the variety of cameras and lidars every Waymo car has.

singleshot_ 2y ago
Further, it seems to me that if you brake hard to avoid a dog, your car should warn me as I’m approaching. I’m not sure why we are trying to teach each car to drive when we could be teaching all the cars and the road to drive.
- c22 2y ago
  This is a good point. Do Waymo cars ever use their horn?
  - nolist_policy 2y ago
    They do: https://youtu.be/YxVihk4c-h8?t=3m5s https://youtu.be/YxVihk4c-h8?t=3m5s
- TulliusCicero 2y ago
  > Further, it seems to me that if you brake hard to avoid a dog, your car should warn me as I’m approaching. What does this mean? Electric cars are already required to emit a sound as they drive. I guess if it has to brake hard for something, honking might be a good idea, but I wouldn't want cars to constantly be beeping at everything in their vicinity if there's no imminent crash. > I’m not sure why we are trying to teach each car to drive when we could be teaching all the cars and the road to drive. I'm not sure what you mean. Presumably Waymo's software is the same across its fleet. They're not training one car's model at a time.
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  - singleshot_ 2y ago
    > What does this mean? Well, if your car brakes hard to avoid a dog, your car should warn me. I’m not sure how to make this concept simpler so I can only repeat it. > Electric cars are already required to emit a sound as they drive. I know. > I guess if it has to brake hard for something, honking might be a good idea, but I wouldn't want cars to constantly be beeping at everything in their vicinity if there's no imminent crash. If you think in a discussion about robot cars that drive themselves being conducted on a hacker website, I’m suggesting that cars communicate their sensor data to each other by honking their horns, in really not sure what to tell you other than yes, this would be profoundly dim witted. > I'm not sure what you mean. I believe it. > Presumably Waymo's software is the same across its fleet. They're not training one car's model at a time. I believe it. I also believe you’re deeply missing the point, perhaps intentionally.
bangaladore 2y ago
I suspect its the processing and validation, not the raw data that is difficult. At least for cities.
- TulliusCicero 2y ago
  Agreed, but having the raw data is still useful, especially for less-used routes where it's not economically feasible to send out dedicated mapping cars all the time.

singleshot_ 2y ago

Further, it seems to me that if you brake hard to avoid a dog, your car should warn me as I’m approaching. I’m not sure why we are trying to teach each car to drive when we could be teaching all the cars and the road to drive.

c22 2y ago
This is a good point. Do Waymo cars ever use their horn?
- nolist_policy 2y ago
  They do: https://youtu.be/YxVihk4c-h8?t=3m5s https://youtu.be/YxVihk4c-h8?t=3m5s
TulliusCicero 2y ago
> Further, it seems to me that if you brake hard to avoid a dog, your car should warn me as I’m approaching. What does this mean? Electric cars are already required to emit a sound as they drive. I guess if it has to brake hard for something, honking might be a good idea, but I wouldn't want cars to constantly be beeping at everything in their vicinity if there's no imminent crash. > I’m not sure why we are trying to teach each car to drive when we could be teaching all the cars and the road to drive. I'm not sure what you mean. Presumably Waymo's software is the same across its fleet. They're not training one car's model at a time.
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- singleshot_ 2y ago
  > What does this mean? Well, if your car brakes hard to avoid a dog, your car should warn me. I’m not sure how to make this concept simpler so I can only repeat it. > Electric cars are already required to emit a sound as they drive. I know. > I guess if it has to brake hard for something, honking might be a good idea, but I wouldn't want cars to constantly be beeping at everything in their vicinity if there's no imminent crash. If you think in a discussion about robot cars that drive themselves being conducted on a hacker website, I’m suggesting that cars communicate their sensor data to each other by honking their horns, in really not sure what to tell you other than yes, this would be profoundly dim witted. > I'm not sure what you mean. I believe it. > Presumably Waymo's software is the same across its fleet. They're not training one car's model at a time. I believe it. I also believe you’re deeply missing the point, perhaps intentionally.

bangaladore 2y ago

I suspect its the processing and validation, not the raw data that is difficult. At least for cities.

TulliusCicero 2y ago
Agreed, but having the raw data is still useful, especially for less-used routes where it's not economically feasible to send out dedicated mapping cars all the time.