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The adaptation was by a group of screenwriters, story tellers, and artists. Sure, it lived inside a soulless corporation that imposed limits & expectations. Bu

The adaptation was by a group of screenwriters, story tellers, and artists. Sure, it lived inside a soulless corporation that imposed limits & expectations. But please don’t do a disservice to the brilliant artists and creatives who make animation.

bluefirebrand 2y ago
> Sure, it lived inside a soulless corporation that imposed limits & expectations. But please don’t do a disservice to the brilliant artists and creatives who make animation. Just because people are hard working and skilled does not place them above criticism. In fact they should be criticized even more when the stuff they produce is substandard We would never say something trite like "don't do a disservice to the brilliant programmers and techies who make software" when we're criticising bad tech industry security practices
- lukas099 2y ago
  But they were specifically responding to a point about the identity of the creators, not the quality. And if it were about the quality, well, Disney's Little Mermaid is a classic.
- kridsdale3 2y ago
  Directors and PMs in multiple FAANG companies that I worked in would commonly say that "a lot of people worked really hard on this" and therefore we couldn't internally criticize an awful implementation or a terrible business plan that caused massive brand / reputation damage that could have been avoided if people outside the org had been able to file complaints sooner in the process.
- sirspacey 2y ago
  In this case it is who is being criticized, or even more to the point, outright ignored. I stand by my comment. It is incredibly, incredibly hard to make a living as a creative and even more challenging to do something as memorable as the Little Mermaid in all the many challenges of the entertainment industry. Guess I’m just stuck on the “man in the arena” moment. Criticism is not virtuous by default.
mindslight 2y ago
Are you referring to the brilliant artists and creatives who refer to their place of employment as "Mousechwitz", or a different group who likely have their own affectionate nicknames? Because I'm pretty sure artists themselves are some of the most aware of how commercial imperatives warp the creative process.

bluefirebrand 2y ago

> Sure, it lived inside a soulless corporation that imposed limits & expectations. But please don’t do a disservice to the brilliant artists and creatives who make animation. Just because people are hard working and skilled does not place them above criticism. In fact they should be criticized even more when the stuff they produce is substandard We would never say something trite like "don't do a disservice to the brilliant programmers and techies who make software" when we're criticising bad tech industry security practices

lukas099 2y ago
But they were specifically responding to a point about the identity of the creators, not the quality. And if it were about the quality, well, Disney's Little Mermaid is a classic.
kridsdale3 2y ago
Directors and PMs in multiple FAANG companies that I worked in would commonly say that "a lot of people worked really hard on this" and therefore we couldn't internally criticize an awful implementation or a terrible business plan that caused massive brand / reputation damage that could have been avoided if people outside the org had been able to file complaints sooner in the process.
sirspacey 2y ago
In this case it is who is being criticized, or even more to the point, outright ignored. I stand by my comment. It is incredibly, incredibly hard to make a living as a creative and even more challenging to do something as memorable as the Little Mermaid in all the many challenges of the entertainment industry. Guess I’m just stuck on the “man in the arena” moment. Criticism is not virtuous by default.

mindslight 2y ago

Are you referring to the brilliant artists and creatives who refer to their place of employment as "Mousechwitz", or a different group who likely have their own affectionate nicknames? Because I'm pretty sure artists themselves are some of the most aware of how commercial imperatives warp the creative process.