(don't 100% buy this take but don't think it's completely invalid either lol) Arguably, that problem is worse in countries with poor landfill/trash collection i

(don't 100% buy this take but don't think it's completely invalid either lol) Arguably, that problem is worse in countries with poor landfill/trash collection infrastructure, the US isn't in the top ten for example (https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/visualized-ocean-plastic-waste-pollution-by-country/ https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/visualized-ocean-plastic...). And in places like the US, the difference between plant sourced and fossil fuel sourced plastic is that plant based would shift the externality calculation towards net positive externalities, since it would shift the plastic industry towards ideally becoming a net carbon sink and leverage consumerism and america's love of single use plastics and packaging to create a market for carbon capture.