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In Windows you can use the task manager to configure what programs are started with your computer.

by jacobwilliamroy 2y ago

Matl 2y ago
What that has to do with the OS vendor adding programs there that the users did not?
ssahoo 2y ago
Not a lot of people know and change that. The point is that they should not have autostarted without consent.
dsalfdslfdsa 2y ago
Sounds like you don't have much experience with Windows and MS software. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msteams/forum/all/why-does-teams-start-at-startup-when-disabled-in/e282ea9e-0778-4ac6-a079-358c71d32558 https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msteams/forum/all/why-do...
- jacobwilliamroy 2y ago
  I administer a Windows domain at my job that I do 40 hours a week so your assessment of me is just wrong and also offensive. I just restarted one of the workstations with Teams startup enabled and Teams ran when the computer restarted. Then I tried disabling Teams startup in the task manager on the same workstation and then restarted the workstation, and Teams hasn't started. I checked the startup tab in the task manager and Teams is still disabled after the restart. It hasn't appeared in the task manager either. This is Windows 10 Pro, so the behavior might be different on different versions/editions of Windows. Also this behavior might be affected by updates. These machines automatically install updates every Saturday, so they're running the latest Windows 10. Even if the setting is reset on a future update, I can create a GPO to disable it or even a scheduled task if I'm not allowed to manage this computer at the domain level.
  - bragh 2y ago
    This is the thing: Windows admins praise Windows when they are running a completely different edition of Windows with different configurable behaviors. It looks a lot different for home users who almost certainly do not even know what a GPO is. And this also raises the suspicion of which exact Windows edition those admins are running on their home computer(s) and how they obtained the license for that...
    - psunavy03 2y ago
      > It looks a lot different for home users who almost certainly do not even know what a GPO is. Sounds like the Windows version of saying "I don't understand why the whole world isn't running Linux."
  - dsalfdslfdsa 2y ago
    You haven't re-created the described problem - Teams sets itself to auto-start again after you start it yourself. After all, it's very reasonable that you might want to join the occasional Teams meeting but not want it running after every boot.
    - Sakos 2y ago
      I'm not sure if it's a particular version or environment that does this, but at the very least I can't replicate it on my home PC with Teams (personal). If I disable it in the task manager's autostart, it remains disabled if I start Teams. It won't even let me enable "Auto-start" in the Teams settings if it's disabled in the task manager.
  - skywhopper 2y ago
    lol, a GPO. Very reasonable solution for a home user.
    - natoliniak 2y ago
      not to mention that gp editor is disabled on non pro windows. i think there is some kind of a funky command line or registry hack to enable it. So yeah, I moved on from windows largely because of this force fed software.
- pndy 2y ago
  Not sure about other people here but I really liked how autostart used to work in 7 and before - just drop a shortcut in the Start menu folder and you're done. In 10 at some point, in order to have 3rd party software launched at login I had to use task scheduler. Also, funny thing: clicking this link pushes me thru https://login.microsoftonline.com/common/oauth2/v2.0/authorize?client_id https://login.microsoftonline.com/common/oauth2/v2.0/authori...(...) - feels like they're expecting me using Edge so they could log me in automatically with snatched MSA credentials
  - BoppreH 2y ago
    You can still do that, the folder is at: %appdata%\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Startup I have a few sshfs[1] mounts there. [1] https://github.com/winfsp/sshfs-win https://github.com/winfsp/sshfs-win
    - pndy 2y ago
      I tried that path back then but it still didn't work for me - no program I tried to put there incl Windows ones was able to launch at the login. I had just entries in the task manager's startup page. Maybe something changed in 11 - dunno
      - naikrovek 2y ago
        I can guarantee you that the startup folder still works fine, but in some cases you must create the folder. Microsoft does not screw around with backwards compatibility. There are multiple ways to start applications on launch now, including the user or public user startup folder, registry entries, and via scheduled tasks.
tgv 2y ago
Apart from the fact that most people don't have a clue, and it shouldn't even have started to begin with... how then? I can see e.g. Widgets in the task manager. How do I disable the service permanently from the task manager?
- stonemetal12 2y ago
  When I look at the task manager, I literally have a tab called startup. It has an entry for Microsoft Teams. I set it to disabled. Teams doesn't start at startup for me.
phito 2y ago
Why do Windows users try so hard to keep defending their OS's shitty behaviors? It's always "you can disable it" (but it might come back automatically after an update), and when you can't disable it (one drive), it's "just don't use it".
- wvenable 2y ago
  I think it's a bit overblown. I don't have OneDrive enabled or Teams on my personal device and it was easy and mostly forgettable. I haven't any issues with it coming back after an update or anything. Edge isn't my default browser either. I feel like people want Windows to be evil so they oversell the issues. That's not to say that Microsoft should be forgiven for their obvious over-promotion of internal products. They really need a strong hand to rein in all these departments with their own metrics and agendas.
  - ryandrake 2y ago
    I think the general principle people are operating out of is that: The USER should be the one deciding 1. what gets installed onto their computer, 2. what gets run on the computer and when, and 3. the configuration of their own system. The OS vendor should not be deciding these things, nor the manufacturer of the computer. It's not enough that we can just ignore or correct these things that are just happening on our own computers without our consent. These things should not be happening to begin with.
  - naikrovek 2y ago
    > people want Windows to be evil so they oversell the issues. This, is it exactly. Microsoft makes some very bad decisions, do not get me wrong. I agree with you and I think this is the core of why people complain so vehemently about Microsoft.
  - psunavy03 2y ago
    > I feel like people want Windows to be evil so they oversell the issues. This goes to explain a lot of reactions that Very Online people tend to have to things. There must be a villain and that villain must be irredeemable. Even when, as the Brits would say, "cock-up" is a more likely explanation than "conspiracy."

In Windows you can use the task manager to configure what programs are started with your computer.

Matl 2y ago

What that has to do with the OS vendor adding programs there that the users did not?

ssahoo 2y ago

Not a lot of people know and change that. The point is that they should not have autostarted without consent.

dsalfdslfdsa 2y ago

Sounds like you don't have much experience with Windows and MS software. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msteams/forum/all/why-does-teams-start-at-startup-when-disabled-in/e282ea9e-0778-4ac6-a079-358c71d32558 https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msteams/forum/all/why-do...

jacobwilliamroy 2y ago
I administer a Windows domain at my job that I do 40 hours a week so your assessment of me is just wrong and also offensive. I just restarted one of the workstations with Teams startup enabled and Teams ran when the computer restarted. Then I tried disabling Teams startup in the task manager on the same workstation and then restarted the workstation, and Teams hasn't started. I checked the startup tab in the task manager and Teams is still disabled after the restart. It hasn't appeared in the task manager either. This is Windows 10 Pro, so the behavior might be different on different versions/editions of Windows. Also this behavior might be affected by updates. These machines automatically install updates every Saturday, so they're running the latest Windows 10. Even if the setting is reset on a future update, I can create a GPO to disable it or even a scheduled task if I'm not allowed to manage this computer at the domain level.
- bragh 2y ago
  This is the thing: Windows admins praise Windows when they are running a completely different edition of Windows with different configurable behaviors. It looks a lot different for home users who almost certainly do not even know what a GPO is. And this also raises the suspicion of which exact Windows edition those admins are running on their home computer(s) and how they obtained the license for that...
  - psunavy03 2y ago
    > It looks a lot different for home users who almost certainly do not even know what a GPO is. Sounds like the Windows version of saying "I don't understand why the whole world isn't running Linux."
- dsalfdslfdsa 2y ago
  You haven't re-created the described problem - Teams sets itself to auto-start again after you start it yourself. After all, it's very reasonable that you might want to join the occasional Teams meeting but not want it running after every boot.
  - Sakos 2y ago
    I'm not sure if it's a particular version or environment that does this, but at the very least I can't replicate it on my home PC with Teams (personal). If I disable it in the task manager's autostart, it remains disabled if I start Teams. It won't even let me enable "Auto-start" in the Teams settings if it's disabled in the task manager.
- skywhopper 2y ago
  lol, a GPO. Very reasonable solution for a home user.
  - natoliniak 2y ago
    not to mention that gp editor is disabled on non pro windows. i think there is some kind of a funky command line or registry hack to enable it. So yeah, I moved on from windows largely because of this force fed software.
pndy 2y ago
Not sure about other people here but I really liked how autostart used to work in 7 and before - just drop a shortcut in the Start menu folder and you're done. In 10 at some point, in order to have 3rd party software launched at login I had to use task scheduler. Also, funny thing: clicking this link pushes me thru https://login.microsoftonline.com/common/oauth2/v2.0/authorize?client_id https://login.microsoftonline.com/common/oauth2/v2.0/authori...(...) - feels like they're expecting me using Edge so they could log me in automatically with snatched MSA credentials
- BoppreH 2y ago
  You can still do that, the folder is at: %appdata%\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Startup I have a few sshfs[1] mounts there. [1] https://github.com/winfsp/sshfs-win https://github.com/winfsp/sshfs-win
  - pndy 2y ago
    I tried that path back then but it still didn't work for me - no program I tried to put there incl Windows ones was able to launch at the login. I had just entries in the task manager's startup page. Maybe something changed in 11 - dunno
    - naikrovek 2y ago
      I can guarantee you that the startup folder still works fine, but in some cases you must create the folder. Microsoft does not screw around with backwards compatibility. There are multiple ways to start applications on launch now, including the user or public user startup folder, registry entries, and via scheduled tasks.

tgv 2y ago

Apart from the fact that most people don't have a clue, and it shouldn't even have started to begin with... how then? I can see e.g. Widgets in the task manager. How do I disable the service permanently from the task manager?

stonemetal12 2y ago
When I look at the task manager, I literally have a tab called startup. It has an entry for Microsoft Teams. I set it to disabled. Teams doesn't start at startup for me.

phito 2y ago

Why do Windows users try so hard to keep defending their OS's shitty behaviors? It's always "you can disable it" (but it might come back automatically after an update), and when you can't disable it (one drive), it's "just don't use it".

wvenable 2y ago
I think it's a bit overblown. I don't have OneDrive enabled or Teams on my personal device and it was easy and mostly forgettable. I haven't any issues with it coming back after an update or anything. Edge isn't my default browser either. I feel like people want Windows to be evil so they oversell the issues. That's not to say that Microsoft should be forgiven for their obvious over-promotion of internal products. They really need a strong hand to rein in all these departments with their own metrics and agendas.
- ryandrake 2y ago
  I think the general principle people are operating out of is that: The USER should be the one deciding 1. what gets installed onto their computer, 2. what gets run on the computer and when, and 3. the configuration of their own system. The OS vendor should not be deciding these things, nor the manufacturer of the computer. It's not enough that we can just ignore or correct these things that are just happening on our own computers without our consent. These things should not be happening to begin with.
- naikrovek 2y ago
  > people want Windows to be evil so they oversell the issues. This, is it exactly. Microsoft makes some very bad decisions, do not get me wrong. I agree with you and I think this is the core of why people complain so vehemently about Microsoft.
- psunavy03 2y ago
  > I feel like people want Windows to be evil so they oversell the issues. This goes to explain a lot of reactions that Very Online people tend to have to things. There must be a villain and that villain must be irredeemable. Even when, as the Brits would say, "cock-up" is a more likely explanation than "conspiracy."