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Maybe if Slack offered proper video conferencing tools it would not complain. Should ask Zoom for advice.

by chucke1992 2y ago

mrweasel 2y ago
It think that one of the issues in this case. Teams rather terrible, but so is everything else. I worked for a company that used Google Chat internally and we'd use Teams with some clients. People kept telling me how much better Slack is, but now that I work for a company that does have Slack, I can't say that it's any better. In fact I'd probably rank Google Chat highest of those three options. Microsoft is giving people free replacement that is in some ways better (but with a worse interface). There's no point in NOT using Teams, when it's at least no much worse. In the same way where people are using Google Chat, or whatever it's called now, because they use GSuite / Google Workplace and the integration is really good. Teams just needs to be cheaper than Slack, unless Slack massively overhauls everything.
- chucke1992 2y ago
  the problem is that EU basically wants Teams to be more expensive so that Slack will become cheaper and thus more attractive. It is hilarious that Slack still has not been able to introduce proper video calls while introducing relatively useless integrations.
  - mrweasel 2y ago
    If Microsoft unbundles Teams, they can still make it available for free and nothing will have been resolved. I do agree with the EU that Teams should be unbundled, but unless you have a cheaper and/or better alternative I don't see it being all that effective. Teams also integrate into Active Directory and the whole Microsoft ecosystem in a way most other systems just doesn't do (not that they can't).
    - chucke1992 2y ago
      Teams currently requires a separate license no? It is not free anymore with Microsoft 365. And that's thing - if slack was actually trying to add features and integrations that users actually wanted, it would not fail that much. I mean, Zoom succeeded without having anything except team conferencing...
  - mirsadm 2y ago
    What are proper video calls? I can make video calls just fine in Slack.
barryrandall 2y ago
Or, like, people could just use both. I realize that means running yet another instance of Chrome, but it's 2024. Even Macs can multitask.

Maybe if Slack offered proper video conferencing tools it would not complain. Should ask Zoom for advice.

It think that one of the issues in this case. Teams rather terrible, but so is everything else. I worked for a company that used Google Chat internally and we'd use Teams with some clients. People kept telling me how much better Slack is, but now that I work for a company that does have Slack, I can't say that it's any better. In fact I'd probably rank Google Chat highest of those three options. Microsoft is giving people free replacement that is in some ways better (but with a worse interface). There's no point in NOT using Teams, when it's at least no much worse. In the same way where people are using Google Chat, or whatever it's called now, because they use GSuite / Google Workplace and the integration is really good. Teams just needs to be cheaper than Slack, unless Slack massively overhauls everything.

chucke1992 2y ago
the problem is that EU basically wants Teams to be more expensive so that Slack will become cheaper and thus more attractive. It is hilarious that Slack still has not been able to introduce proper video calls while introducing relatively useless integrations.
- mrweasel 2y ago
  If Microsoft unbundles Teams, they can still make it available for free and nothing will have been resolved. I do agree with the EU that Teams should be unbundled, but unless you have a cheaper and/or better alternative I don't see it being all that effective. Teams also integrate into Active Directory and the whole Microsoft ecosystem in a way most other systems just doesn't do (not that they can't).
  - chucke1992 2y ago
    Teams currently requires a separate license no? It is not free anymore with Microsoft 365. And that's thing - if slack was actually trying to add features and integrations that users actually wanted, it would not fail that much. I mean, Zoom succeeded without having anything except team conferencing...
- mirsadm 2y ago
  What are proper video calls? I can make video calls just fine in Slack.

barryrandall 2y ago

Or, like, people could just use both. I realize that means running yet another instance of Chrome, but it's 2024. Even Macs can multitask.