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Gaming is horrible on Mac. Also I don’t like how they patronize their users. I for one run an old win10 just for gaming and some legacy software. Will keep unt

Gaming is horrible on Mac. Also I don’t like how they patronize their users. I for one run an old win10 just for gaming and some legacy software. Will keep until EOL of win10 and then check alternatives

dewey 2y ago
> Gaming is horrible on Mac. Just like an Linux is horrible for doing video editing, not sure that comparison makes sense. Pick the right system for your workload.
- maven29 2y ago
  >Just like an Linux is horrible for doing video editing Doesn't Davinci Resolve run well on Linux? I've heard most VFX and Animation work is done on Linux workstations and render farms. Really it's just the absence of Adobe and a few beginner-friendly tools, I'd say. https://www.phoronix.com/news/VFX-Animation-Linux-Recommends https://www.phoronix.com/news/VFX-Animation-Linux-Recommends
  - tombert 2y ago
    I think Linux is used extensively for the hyper-professional stuff, but those programs cost $10,000+ and really aren't meant for consumers. I haven't done video editing on Linux for awhile, Lightworks is generally pretty ok, but I don't really know of any equivalent to After Effects or Apple Motion available on Linux, at least in the consumer space. I don't really do enough interesting stuff with video for that to bother me but I suspect that could be a blocker for a lot of people.
DaSHacka 2y ago
> I for one run an old win10 just for gaming and some legacy software. Will keep until EOL of win10 and then check alternatives Same story here, I think the usability of Windows 10 LTSC IoT is pretty much unmatched. It'll get security updates until 2032, doesn't have preinstalled bloat like crandy crush or the Microsoft store, lets you reschedule updates freely, and has the expanded features of Pro/Enterprise editions (group policies, RDP, Bitlocker, etc)
cjk2 2y ago
> Gaming is horrible on Mac In a couple of years I bet that has changed.
- Macha 2y ago
  I don't think so. Apple is the one who really has the power to push that, and they haven't, preferring to let people port iOS games over to Mac OS. And while that is gaming, it's basically an entirely different market to the gaming we're discussing here and not a real substitute for it. While Candy Crush has a billion players, nobody is going "Oh, I can't play Cyberpunk, guess I'll just play Candy Crush". And for that traditional gaming market, Apple has thrown up roadblocks rather than assistance - their frequent tech migrations backs the back catalogue sales that help companies a lot, stuff like deprecating OpenGL for Metal means they need to write bespoke code for apple platforms when even the consoles are pretty onboard with standardisation these days.
  - cjk2 2y ago
    I disagree. I have a bet they will kill the console market dead by 2029. Most of the games run on off the shelf tech now which has Metal back ends. The hardware is rapidly evolving in capability since 2020. The Pro devices now are quite powerful. Enough grunt to do a half decent job of being a console. When that is commoditised in the mid-range, the existing market looks rather attractive to game developers. There's also an existing marketplace (app store) and the end users, from those who I know are fucked off with Sony and Microsoft. Yeah you're not going to run top end games at 4k on them but most people don't do that either. And the market for optimising them towards the large market scope makes sense. Example of what is already on the market and in people's pockets. You can connect a controller and 4k display to it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRAOBEtQ_MY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRAOBEtQ_MY
    - Macha 2y ago
      The timing was too good on this when I saw it today, but: https://mobilegamer.biz/those-assassins-creed-resident-evil-and-death-stranding-ports-have-bombed/ https://mobilegamer.biz/those-assassins-creed-resident-evil-...
nordsieck 2y ago
> Gaming is horrible on Mac. I think it really depends on which games you want to play. I basically only play 2... and they both seem to run quite well. I realize that that is an atypical experience, though.
- emmet 2y ago
  Factorio runs perfectly and I can't see why anyone would need a second game.
  - nordsieck 2y ago
    Yeah - Factorio is one of them :)
    - emmet 2y ago
      Either I'm a psychic or we're all terribly predictable
      - nordsieck 2y ago
        > Either I'm a psychic or we're all terribly predictable To be fair, this is HN
  - dacryn 2y ago
    cities skylines and age of empires 2 sadly ....

dewey 2y ago

> Gaming is horrible on Mac. Just like an Linux is horrible for doing video editing, not sure that comparison makes sense. Pick the right system for your workload.

maven29 2y ago
>Just like an Linux is horrible for doing video editing Doesn't Davinci Resolve run well on Linux? I've heard most VFX and Animation work is done on Linux workstations and render farms. Really it's just the absence of Adobe and a few beginner-friendly tools, I'd say. https://www.phoronix.com/news/VFX-Animation-Linux-Recommends https://www.phoronix.com/news/VFX-Animation-Linux-Recommends
- tombert 2y ago
  I think Linux is used extensively for the hyper-professional stuff, but those programs cost $10,000+ and really aren't meant for consumers. I haven't done video editing on Linux for awhile, Lightworks is generally pretty ok, but I don't really know of any equivalent to After Effects or Apple Motion available on Linux, at least in the consumer space. I don't really do enough interesting stuff with video for that to bother me but I suspect that could be a blocker for a lot of people.

DaSHacka 2y ago

> I for one run an old win10 just for gaming and some legacy software. Will keep until EOL of win10 and then check alternatives Same story here, I think the usability of Windows 10 LTSC IoT is pretty much unmatched. It'll get security updates until 2032, doesn't have preinstalled bloat like crandy crush or the Microsoft store, lets you reschedule updates freely, and has the expanded features of Pro/Enterprise editions (group policies, RDP, Bitlocker, etc)

cjk2 2y ago

> Gaming is horrible on Mac In a couple of years I bet that has changed.

Macha 2y ago
I don't think so. Apple is the one who really has the power to push that, and they haven't, preferring to let people port iOS games over to Mac OS. And while that is gaming, it's basically an entirely different market to the gaming we're discussing here and not a real substitute for it. While Candy Crush has a billion players, nobody is going "Oh, I can't play Cyberpunk, guess I'll just play Candy Crush". And for that traditional gaming market, Apple has thrown up roadblocks rather than assistance - their frequent tech migrations backs the back catalogue sales that help companies a lot, stuff like deprecating OpenGL for Metal means they need to write bespoke code for apple platforms when even the consoles are pretty onboard with standardisation these days.
- cjk2 2y ago
  I disagree. I have a bet they will kill the console market dead by 2029. Most of the games run on off the shelf tech now which has Metal back ends. The hardware is rapidly evolving in capability since 2020. The Pro devices now are quite powerful. Enough grunt to do a half decent job of being a console. When that is commoditised in the mid-range, the existing market looks rather attractive to game developers. There's also an existing marketplace (app store) and the end users, from those who I know are fucked off with Sony and Microsoft. Yeah you're not going to run top end games at 4k on them but most people don't do that either. And the market for optimising them towards the large market scope makes sense. Example of what is already on the market and in people's pockets. You can connect a controller and 4k display to it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRAOBEtQ_MY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRAOBEtQ_MY
  - Macha 2y ago
    The timing was too good on this when I saw it today, but: https://mobilegamer.biz/those-assassins-creed-resident-evil-and-death-stranding-ports-have-bombed/ https://mobilegamer.biz/those-assassins-creed-resident-evil-...

nordsieck 2y ago

> Gaming is horrible on Mac. I think it really depends on which games you want to play. I basically only play 2... and they both seem to run quite well. I realize that that is an atypical experience, though.

emmet 2y ago
Factorio runs perfectly and I can't see why anyone would need a second game.
- nordsieck 2y ago
  Yeah - Factorio is one of them :)
  - emmet 2y ago
    Either I'm a psychic or we're all terribly predictable
    - nordsieck 2y ago
      > Either I'm a psychic or we're all terribly predictable To be fair, this is HN
- dacryn 2y ago
  cities skylines and age of empires 2 sadly ....