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Russian government isn't? That says more about you than anybody else.
by lannisterstark 2y ago
Russian government isn't? That says more about you than anybody else.
- exoverito 2y agoTo be fair the American government acts like an enemy to most of its people too.
- LAC-Tech 2y agoYeap. Neither is Iran. They're someone elses enemy, not mine.
- lannisterstark 2y agoThey'll be your enemies if you're the "wrong" kind of person as soon as you step on their soil. Hope it helps, because it doesn't to millions of people living in their regimes. Authoritarianism apologia is wild.
- LAC-Tech 2y agoNo Persian government agents have ever come to my country to try and fraudulently steal a passport from a man with cerebal palsy. Israeli ones have though.
- lannisterstark 2y agoYet. Not to mention you sidestepped the entire conversation. It sucks for their own people. Their own govt is their enemy - we should be standing next to them, not going "oh yeah you're oppressors of your own people but in my book you're cool because I dislike my own country/Israel/West" or whatever the new excuse is.
- LAC-Tech 2y agoWho the hell are we to tell Iran what sort of government they should have?
- defrost 2y agoWhile NZ currently doesn't do much of that sort of thing, the European settlers of NZ simply couldn't get enough of telling other countries what to do and were fairly instrumental in drawing up and imposing borders after the fall of the Ottoman empire. If "we" is taken to include the core HN user base (the USofA) then that horse has bolted given the the 1953 Iranian coup d'état, the U.S.- and British-instigated, Iranian army-led overthrow of the elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh that more or less kick started the arc toward where Iran-West relations are today.
- LAC-Tech 2y agoWhile NZ currently doesn't do much of that sort of thing, the European settlers of NZ simply couldn't get enough of telling other countries what to do and were fairly instrumental in drawing up and imposing borders after the fall of the Ottoman empire. Did that work well? Should the west keep following a similar course of action? I am also keenly aware that British Empire involvement started with conquering Palestine & The Balfour Declaration, and ended in the Sergeant's Affair. We have spilled more than enough blood for Zionism and (when we were no longer useful) had our blood spilled by Zionism. Therefore I reiterate - do not make Iran your enemy on behalf of people who have historically used us as tools to get what they want.