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Mozilla roll out first AI features in Firefox Nightly
- TheChaplain 2y agoAnyone know which about:config-parameters I need to change to disable it?
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- Semaphor 2y agoYes, here's the exhaustive list:
- Mashimo 2y agoIt's not turned on by default (yet)
- Antialways 2y agoSo instead of reading it properly, you jumped the ship and ask directly for disabling it? As a way of really saving yourself time or making a statement? Based on what assumption?
- TheChaplain 2y agoI did read it. And it is a tounge-in-cheek comment with a fair trace of honesty. I think Firefox is the best option today, but that doesn't mean I trust Mozilla (with "Pocket"-debacle being the supernova of reasons).
- Antialways 2y agoI think its too shallow. It doesn't explain anything just a general undefined 'hate' against it. Do you generally think ai integration is bad?
- ssss11 2y agoThey split their focus too much chasing all the latest buzz. Then their funds get wasted and they close stuff down having created no additional value.
- Antialways 2y agoAt least in my opinion, this is a great feature. I'm also waiting for it to allow local agents. Will be a corner stone of llm integration.
- tssva 2y agoI would think Mozilla recently becoming an ad company would be more of a reason not to trust them than the whole Pocket situation.
- Hamuko 2y agoI was actually surprised to find out that Firefox has ads on the new tab page. Discovered this when I accidentally forgot to turn off my VPN connection to an US server and Firefox took this as a sign to display ads. You can turn them off manually in the settings but since I never got them in Europe, I'd left the setting on its default value ("Please show me ads").
- b3ing 2y agoThe current CEO pushed out the person that was supposed to come back from medical leave of cancer to be the CEO. That story never got enough likes on this site though. Anyway, the board and CEO did shady stuff so who knows what direction they will take Mozilla
- trelane 2y agoOr, better yet, the compilation config parameters.
- zb3 2y agoTLDR: Opt-in
- ivanjermakov 2y agoOpt-in, for now...
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- newscracker 2y agoThis post is very thin on details. A better source is in the Firefox Nightly News blog post titled “Experimenting with AI services in Nightly”. [1] This is currently opt-in. Some excerpts from that post [1]: > To start, this experiment will only be available to Nightly users, and the AI functionality will be entirely optional. It’s there in case it’s helpful, but it is not built into any core functionality. > In the first experiment that you can try out this week, you will be able to: > Add a chatbot of your choice to the sidebar, so you can quickly access it as you browse. > Select and send text from webpages to. > Summarize the excerpt and make it easier to scan and understand at a glance. > Simplify language. We find this feature handy for answering the typical kids’ “why” questions. > Ask the chatbot to test your knowledge and memory of the excerpt. > To activate the experience: > Go to Settings > Nightly Experiments and turn the AI Chatbot Integration experiment on. > Choose your preferred chatbot from this list of providers: ChatGPT, Google Gemini, HuggingChat, Le Chat Mistral > Then, as you browse, select any text, right-click it, and choose the Ask chatbot option to send the text, page title, and prompt to your provider. [1]: https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2024/06/24/experimenting-with-ai-services-in-nightly/ https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2024/06/24/experimenting-wi...
- CaptainFever 2y agoI like these features.
- RealStickman_ 2y agoAnother important part from the article you linked: > Nightly can be configured by advanced testers to use custom prompts and any compatible chatbot, such as llamafile (discord), which runs on-device open models, including open-source ones.
- JadeNB 2y ago> To start, this experiment will only be available to Nightly users, and the AI functionality will be entirely optional. There are at least two ways of reading the scope of the initial qualifier, but, given Mozilla's fondness for trying to force certain features they like on users (cough Pocket cough Mr. Robot cough), I don't like that "the AI functionality will be entirely optional" is preceded by "to start."
- 0x00cl 2y agoKISS Couldn't this just be done with an extension?
- poikroequ 2y agoTotally agree. If Firefox Translations can be an extension, so can this.
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- ssss11 2y agoGod no. Focus on a quality product instead of shiny buzz words for once.
- bikson 2y agoOh boy, they have too much money? Nobody asked for this and/or need this feature.
- ekianjo 2y agobut they happily remove features power users love because... no reason
- falcor84 2y agoNobody may "need" it, but I'm someone who wants it. I typically have multiple LLM tabs open to quickly ask things while I'm browsing, and I see the potential of having this functionality be directly integrated into the browser.
- noisy_boy 2y agoHow about adding a grid feature so that I can view multiple tabs in a grid, side-by-side instead of having to manually resize multiple windows everytime I need to do this? I can't imagine I am the only one needing this. Or being able to mark a window as "main" so even if I accidentally close it first, I don't lose all my pinned tabs upon restart? Again, I'm sure many people have burnt their fingers with this long-standing issue. I have nothing against AI driven stuff but I keep hoping that one day Mozilla will do the basic things first.
- squigz 2y ago> How about adding a grid feature so that I can view multiple tabs in a grid, side-by-side instead of having to manually resize multiple windows everytime I need to do this? I can't imagine I am the only one needing this. This seems like the job of your WM/OS, not the browser. > Or being able to mark a window as "main" so even if I accidentally close it first, I don't lose all my pinned tabs upon restart? Again, I'm sure many people have burnt their fingers with this long-standing issue. IIRC, Firefox has just about the same built-in session recovery features as the other major browsers. There's also session management extensions as a backup.
- lkdfjlkdfjlg 2y ago>> How about adding a grid feature so that I can view multiple tabs in a grid, side-by-side instead of having to manually resize multiple windows everytime I need to do this? I can't imagine I am the only one needing this. > This seems like the job of your WM/OS, not the browser. Exactly. This guy is saying "my windows manager sucks, why doesn't Mozilla do something about it"
- noisy_boy 2y ago> Exactly. This guy is saying "my windows manager sucks, why doesn't Mozilla do something about it" Not really - see response to sibling comment.
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- esbeeb 2y agoI've been using Librewolf for about a week now, and I hope they strip out/disable this AI feature. A few librewolf "gotchas", BTW, should anyone else want to try it: https://c.im/@sbb/112653498580361415 https://c.im/@sbb/112653498580361415
- trelane 2y agoNice. I was about to wonder what firefox derivatives were about. Then I realized I could find it myself: https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_browsers_based_on_Firefox#List_of_web_browsers_based_on_Firefox_(active) https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_browsers_based_on_Fire...
- pixxel 2y agoBoardroom: AI! AI, what? Dunno, just AI. Ok. Ok. Ok. Ok. Ok. Ok.
- sph 2y agoMeanwhile, at a random VC in 2024: AI! AI, what? Dunno, just AI. Say no more. Here's a $100M check.
- consumer451 2y agoIs it safe to assume that these API calls to ChatGPT, Google Gemini, HuggingChat, and Le Chat Mistral are costing Mozilla money?
- ACV001 2y agoProbably no, as they must have an agreement to sell your navigation as training data to those providers.
- tristan957 2y agoPlease cite your sources when making a claim of this magnitude.
- inhumantsar 2y agoI'm assuming you're going to have to sign in to your account with those services and that this is just an integration, not a free service
- consumer451 2y agoI thought that might be the case as well, but didn't see any mention of that in the docs.
- rf15 2y agoGod no. How does this help you? You're last in the race of browsers to link AI features, and this sounds like it's not even a plugin but a core feature. I don't understand who would want or need this. You skipped bitcoin, you skipped NFTs, why do you enter the grifter's race now? edit: I only know of Vivaldi declaring they're against adding AI features [0] [0] https://vivaldi.com/blog/technology/vivaldi-wont-allow-a-machine-to-lie-to-you/ https://vivaldi.com/blog/technology/vivaldi-wont-allow-a-mac...
- Jackevansevo 2y agoMozilla forever determined to do anything but actually improve their core product. I know it's opt-in, but nobody is going to switch to a browser because they ship this kinda stuff.
- botanical 2y agoI'm fine with local "AI". I use the built-in translate feature quite extensively. I don't want it connecting to these outside services that prey on user-data and take advantage of user privacy; especially the likes of Google that is providing its AI services to Apartheid Israel's army.
- drivingmenuts 2y agoI don't want it because I don't have a reliable connection.
- sorenjan 2y agoIt looks like by "AI" they're only referring to LLM-based features. Other AI that I think would be beneficial in a browser would be OCR text in images, image classification and description (maybe optionally censor gore and similar), change detection on websites, good history search. They already have some features that could be marketed as AI like reader view and local translation.
- bastawhiz 2y agoThey specifically call out adding alt text to images in PDFs.
- ColonelPhantom 2y agoMan, I was actually kind of happy about Mozilla's seemingly-measured response to the AI hype, and mostly running local models to perform actually useful tasks (translation, alt text generation). But I really don't think cramming a bunch of proprietary online services like ChatGPT counts as "intentional and methodical". It comes across more like a "we need AI!!!" cry of desperation, throwing principles like privacy in the wind.
- beretguy 2y agoI’d rather they add tab groups first.
- ramyar 2y agoai for kids
- jerojero 2y agoSo quick to roll out AI but I'm still waiting for proper tab grouping. I know it's coming, they've already said so. But how is AI given priority over the most requested feature in their forums?
- amanzi 2y agoFeels like this should be an extension, not a core part of the browser