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Fun fact: Fat Mike once owned this swanky house in San Francisco [1]. Not too bad for “not having a job!” Also, the dude founded and ran Fat Wreck Chords in 1

by davely 2y ago

Fun fact: Fat Mike once owned this swanky house in San Francisco [1]. Not too bad for “not having a job!” Also, the dude founded and ran Fat Wreck Chords in 1990! He continues to run it with his partner to this day [2]. [1] https://www.sfgate.com/realestate/article/sf-home-punk-rock-royalty-connections-for-sale-19444607.php https://www.sfgate.com/realestate/article/sf-home-punk-rock-... [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_Wreck_Chords https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_Wreck_Chords

notthemessiah 2y ago
He's going to be spending his golden years in Mattersville
cyberpunk 2y ago
He seems to be an absolutely terrible human being [0] and absolutely desperate to appear edgy and extreme, which I could maybe tolerate if his music was any good, which it isn't. 0: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2010/mar/29/fat-mike-nofx-spiked-fans-drink-urine https://www.theguardian.com/music/2010/mar/29/fat-mike-nofx-...
- belZaah 2y ago
  That’s the thing with old punks. They do not care and have nor cared for decades. Which means they are not necessarily the nicest people around.
- waysa 2y ago
  He knows that and he regrets being that way. I turn on the TV And I don't like what I see There's an old punk rocker acting like a jerk And that jerk looks a lot like me From the 2016 song "I Don't Like me Anymore"
  - brabel 2y ago
    Fat Mike is actually a good guy. He's done a lot of shit, but mostly shit you expect from a punk, like this sort of prank (which seems to be the only source for the parent commenter to decide he's a "terrible human being", the sort of hyperbolic, simplistic language you expect from people who are desperate to find something to be outraged about), getting drunk/high on shows, criticizing everything/everyone (just like in his songs) including himself. A more recent song where he self-deprecates (there's many), "Don't count on me": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS2oFkpsxVo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS2oFkpsxVo " Don't count on me, 'cause I'm the worst If I'm there, it'll be a surprise to so many other friends that I'd call first It's not that I don't care, I just don't care very much 'Cause I'm either on the spectrum, or just plain out of touch That's who I am, that's what I do I could change if I wanted to, but I don't " Anyway, watch the NOFX documentaries (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aa9aIoorJ8&list=PL15C6AE3FAF919C90 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aa9aIoorJ8&list=PL15C6AE3FA...) and Mike's podcast. He seems to be quite nice and liked by all who know him. Maybe that's biased, but that's the main source I have :). Here's a Reddit post by someone who is an actual friend of his: https://www.reddit.com/r/nofx/comments/1d2iwzx/my_journey_as_a_nofx_die_hard_fan_to_being_mikes/ https://www.reddit.com/r/nofx/comments/1d2iwzx/my_journey_as...
- tecleandor 2y ago
  That was a double prank. He made it look like he peed on a bottle and then served its contents to some people, but there's a video where you can see how he switches it by a regular bottle last minute. https://exclaim.ca/music/article/nofxs_fat_mike_comes_clean_about_controversial_piss_incident https://exclaim.ca/music/article/nofxs_fat_mike_comes_clean_... https://www.punknews.org/article/38407/fat-mike-comes-clean-on-cokie-the-clown-incident https://www.punknews.org/article/38407/fat-mike-comes-clean-... In a quick search can't find the video right now, but I remember watching it years ago.
- rapsey 2y ago
  Most people who achieve great things or stand out far from their peers are not nice people. It is almost a prerequisite. Musk, Gates, Jobs and pretty much every really successful artist are all monumental assholes. If you can't seperate the person from the art or achievement you can't really enjoy a lot of things.
  - Lewton 2y ago
    nah, this is just lame apologia that normalises being a shitty person
    - rapsey 2y ago
      Going through life spending energy on hating others sounds like a misearable time to me. But if you enjoy it have fun.
      - Lewton 2y ago
        where did you get the impression that i spend time hating people? I'm saying that you shouldn't normalise being a shitty person "because you have to be shitty to be great". There's tons of amazing artists that are generally known as being all around great people (I'm not even referring to fat mike here, I have no idea if he's a good person or not)
- idop 2y ago
  I have no problem with your impression of Fat Mike, but your only example is flawed. He never actually serve urine to anyone. https://archive.completemusicupdate.com/article/no-one-drank-fat-mikes-piss/ https://archive.completemusicupdate.com/article/no-one-drank...
- dbspin 2y ago
  How fortunate for you that his moral character is reflected in the quality of his art. Sarcasm aside, this is a peculiarly modern fallacy. While fanatics have often attacked or destroyed 'secular' art, the coincidental observation that the cancelled or scapegoated artist 'actually was a bad artist all along' seems to be novel. No article or comment vilifying say Woody Allen or Roman Polanski is complete without a satisfied nod towards their supposed lack of skill. Despite or perhaps because of the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. It's no longer enough to point out that an artist is a bad person, we must also assume that their work was inferior.
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by davely 2y ago

notthemessiah 2y ago

He's going to be spending his golden years in Mattersville

cyberpunk 2y ago

He seems to be an absolutely terrible human being [0] and absolutely desperate to appear edgy and extreme, which I could maybe tolerate if his music was any good, which it isn't. 0: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2010/mar/29/fat-mike-nofx-spiked-fans-drink-urine https://www.theguardian.com/music/2010/mar/29/fat-mike-nofx-...

belZaah 2y ago
That’s the thing with old punks. They do not care and have nor cared for decades. Which means they are not necessarily the nicest people around.
waysa 2y ago
He knows that and he regrets being that way. I turn on the TV And I don't like what I see There's an old punk rocker acting like a jerk And that jerk looks a lot like me From the 2016 song "I Don't Like me Anymore"
- brabel 2y ago
  Fat Mike is actually a good guy. He's done a lot of shit, but mostly shit you expect from a punk, like this sort of prank (which seems to be the only source for the parent commenter to decide he's a "terrible human being", the sort of hyperbolic, simplistic language you expect from people who are desperate to find something to be outraged about), getting drunk/high on shows, criticizing everything/everyone (just like in his songs) including himself. A more recent song where he self-deprecates (there's many), "Don't count on me": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS2oFkpsxVo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS2oFkpsxVo " Don't count on me, 'cause I'm the worst If I'm there, it'll be a surprise to so many other friends that I'd call first It's not that I don't care, I just don't care very much 'Cause I'm either on the spectrum, or just plain out of touch That's who I am, that's what I do I could change if I wanted to, but I don't " Anyway, watch the NOFX documentaries (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aa9aIoorJ8&list=PL15C6AE3FAF919C90 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aa9aIoorJ8&list=PL15C6AE3FA...) and Mike's podcast. He seems to be quite nice and liked by all who know him. Maybe that's biased, but that's the main source I have :). Here's a Reddit post by someone who is an actual friend of his: https://www.reddit.com/r/nofx/comments/1d2iwzx/my_journey_as_a_nofx_die_hard_fan_to_being_mikes/ https://www.reddit.com/r/nofx/comments/1d2iwzx/my_journey_as...
tecleandor 2y ago
That was a double prank. He made it look like he peed on a bottle and then served its contents to some people, but there's a video where you can see how he switches it by a regular bottle last minute. https://exclaim.ca/music/article/nofxs_fat_mike_comes_clean_about_controversial_piss_incident https://exclaim.ca/music/article/nofxs_fat_mike_comes_clean_... https://www.punknews.org/article/38407/fat-mike-comes-clean-on-cokie-the-clown-incident https://www.punknews.org/article/38407/fat-mike-comes-clean-... In a quick search can't find the video right now, but I remember watching it years ago.
rapsey 2y ago
Most people who achieve great things or stand out far from their peers are not nice people. It is almost a prerequisite. Musk, Gates, Jobs and pretty much every really successful artist are all monumental assholes. If you can't seperate the person from the art or achievement you can't really enjoy a lot of things.
- Lewton 2y ago
  nah, this is just lame apologia that normalises being a shitty person
  - rapsey 2y ago
    Going through life spending energy on hating others sounds like a misearable time to me. But if you enjoy it have fun.
    - Lewton 2y ago
      where did you get the impression that i spend time hating people? I'm saying that you shouldn't normalise being a shitty person "because you have to be shitty to be great". There's tons of amazing artists that are generally known as being all around great people (I'm not even referring to fat mike here, I have no idea if he's a good person or not)
idop 2y ago
I have no problem with your impression of Fat Mike, but your only example is flawed. He never actually serve urine to anyone. https://archive.completemusicupdate.com/article/no-one-drank-fat-mikes-piss/ https://archive.completemusicupdate.com/article/no-one-drank...
dbspin 2y ago
How fortunate for you that his moral character is reflected in the quality of his art. Sarcasm aside, this is a peculiarly modern fallacy. While fanatics have often attacked or destroyed 'secular' art, the coincidental observation that the cancelled or scapegoated artist 'actually was a bad artist all along' seems to be novel. No article or comment vilifying say Woody Allen or Roman Polanski is complete without a satisfied nod towards their supposed lack of skill. Despite or perhaps because of the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. It's no longer enough to point out that an artist is a bad person, we must also assume that their work was inferior.
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