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Weird that he had the hacked emails of two political parties in the US and only released one of them, then

by bandrami 2y ago

lukan 2y ago
Are there sources for this?
- bandrami 2y ago
  Both the Mueller report[1] and the Senate report[2]. There is apparently some question whether Wikileaks even got the RNC data and didn't release it or just didn't bother asking for it in the first place[3]. Assange himself has discussed why he was only interested in hurting the Democratic party in the US[4]. 1: https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/dl https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/dl 2: https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/report_volume5.pdf https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/docu... 3: https://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/12/10/report-russian-hackers-had-rnc-data-but-didn-t-release-it https://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/12/10/report-russi... 4: https://theintercept.com/2018/02/14/julian-assange-wikileaks-election-clinton-trump/ https://theintercept.com/2018/02/14/julian-assange-wikileaks...
  - lukan 2y ago
    The intercept link is quite good in quoting his motivation, which is indeed quite contrary to the stated goal of Wikileaks being neutral. But in [1] and [2], could you hint where in there that information is to be found? Those are quite long documents and wikileaks is not the main subject there.
  - chrisco255 2y ago
    It wouldn't have mattered in the RNC case even if it was leaked. It was well known that Republican party insiders disliked Trump, but Trump won anyway. The DNC leak was motivated by Bernie's treatment in the primary.
    - CRConrad 2y ago
      I don't see how one follows from the other. It's also rather well known that Bernie was disliked by much of the Democratic establishment, so shouldn't that, by your reasoning, mean that WikiLeaks shouldn't have published the DNC leaks either?
whamlastxmas 2y ago
A shame there aren’t any other journalists that could have leaked the other party’s emails, clearly Assanges fault
- bandrami 2y ago
  I mean, yes, great example, that's the kind of sad argument Assange's defenders have to say with a straight face
alfalfasprout 2y ago
This has been heavily disputed already... it's not clear that wikileaks even had access to the RNC data.

Weird that he had the hacked emails of two political parties in the US and only released one of them, then

lukan 2y ago

Are there sources for this?

bandrami 2y ago
Both the Mueller report[1] and the Senate report[2]. There is apparently some question whether Wikileaks even got the RNC data and didn't release it or just didn't bother asking for it in the first place[3]. Assange himself has discussed why he was only interested in hurting the Democratic party in the US[4]. 1: https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/dl https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/dl 2: https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/report_volume5.pdf https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/docu... 3: https://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/12/10/report-russian-hackers-had-rnc-data-but-didn-t-release-it https://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/12/10/report-russi... 4: https://theintercept.com/2018/02/14/julian-assange-wikileaks-election-clinton-trump/ https://theintercept.com/2018/02/14/julian-assange-wikileaks...
- lukan 2y ago
  The intercept link is quite good in quoting his motivation, which is indeed quite contrary to the stated goal of Wikileaks being neutral. But in [1] and [2], could you hint where in there that information is to be found? Those are quite long documents and wikileaks is not the main subject there.
- chrisco255 2y ago
  It wouldn't have mattered in the RNC case even if it was leaked. It was well known that Republican party insiders disliked Trump, but Trump won anyway. The DNC leak was motivated by Bernie's treatment in the primary.
  - CRConrad 2y ago
    I don't see how one follows from the other. It's also rather well known that Bernie was disliked by much of the Democratic establishment, so shouldn't that, by your reasoning, mean that WikiLeaks shouldn't have published the DNC leaks either?

whamlastxmas 2y ago

A shame there aren’t any other journalists that could have leaked the other party’s emails, clearly Assanges fault

bandrami 2y ago
I mean, yes, great example, that's the kind of sad argument Assange's defenders have to say with a straight face

alfalfasprout 2y ago

This has been heavily disputed already... it's not clear that wikileaks even had access to the RNC data.