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But isn't the problem that the state produces so much good as well as the bad. If the moral scale were so clear-cut, then being a state or not does not really e

But isn't the problem that the state produces so much good as well as the bad. If the moral scale were so clear-cut, then being a state or not does not really excuse at all. Many people can image what justice can be for ISIS or Nazi germany for example. It is maybe a similar question as when you ask how should Google, Apple, or Amazon be punished when they violate laws/behave in bad faith.

munificent 2y ago
> But isn't the problem that the state produces so much good as well as the bad. Yes, that's definitely part of the problem. How do you evaluate the overall goodness of an organization that does thousands of things, some helpful, some harmful?