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No, define how dangerous it is please. I’d like to know the odds of dying from a hat falling from the sky. If we’re going to call something dangerous, we shoul

No, define how dangerous it is please. I’d like to know the odds of dying from a hat falling from the sky. If we’re going to call something dangerous, we should probably have actual logic and data to support that claim, right?

Retric 2y ago
> actual logic and data to support that claim, right? As you seem to be massively misinformed: > Distracted driving is dangerous, claiming 3,308 lives in 2022 > What Is Distracted Driving? > anything that takes your attention away from the task of safe driving. https://www.nhtsa.gov/risky-driving/distracted-driving https://www.nhtsa.gov/risky-driving/distracted-driving Now obviously having a hat land on a windshield and actually block visibility would be worse, but catching something falling out of the edge of your vision especially something odd like a falling hat would easily qualify. It’s also distracting pedestrians and so likely to result in other injuries.
- alex_lav 2y ago
  > As you seem to be massively misinformed: I am not "massively misinformed". I'm asking a person making a ridiculous claim (a hat falling from the sky will kill you) to support their claim. I'm seeing no mention of hats in your linked information. Please share hat related injuries, as that's what we're discussing.
  - Retric 2y ago
    The claim is distracting drivers can result in deaths, it has little specific to hats. Rather it’s about the dropping. “Several properties of visual stimuli have been shown to capture attention, one of which is the onset of motion.“ https://link.springer.com/article/10.3758/s13414-018-1548-1 https://link.springer.com/article/10.3758/s13414-018-1548-1 > I am not "massively misinformed" Your ignorant response proves otherwise.
    - alex_lav 2y ago
      So, you're an expert in hat related deaths? I fail to see how rattling off irrelevant statistics makes you "informed". Still not a single reference to hat related deaths, the topic of our debate!
      - Retric 2y ago
        > I fail to see Clearly you don’t want to see, but you lost the argument anyway. Some basic advice, if you don’t want to come off as a fool try actually responding to an agreement as presented. You may still lose, but at least it doesn’t look like you’re hiding.
        alex_lav 2y ago
        I’m not hiding from anything! You presented an argument (a hat falling from the sky will kill you) and then have been spouting irrelevant nonsense! I suspect that, if the notion of a hat falling 20 feet out of a window terrifies you this much, you’ve probably not engaged much with real people or the world around you, such that I wouldn’t really have expected anything different. Glad I was not wrong!
        Retric 2y ago
        > a hat falling from the sky will kill you Yet, again demonstrating you didn’t understand even the title of the article. As you clearly failed to read there in an ‘s’ at the end of “hats” at the top of the article. In this context that s means repeated hat drops. Summing up for a simple mind. Research shows falling hats distract people. Article showing intersection means drivers would get distracted. Research showed distracting drivers risks killing someone else. So with multiple events each risking killing someone taking place risk gasp increases. PS: It’s also illegal, but that’s a secondary concern.
        alex_lav 2y ago
        > Yet, again demonstrating you didn’t understand even the title of the article. As you clearly failed to read there in an ‘s’ at the end of “hats” at the top of the article. In this context that s means repeated hat drops. _Some_ hats? gasp. The horror! Go outside.

Retric 2y ago

> actual logic and data to support that claim, right? As you seem to be massively misinformed: > Distracted driving is dangerous, claiming 3,308 lives in 2022 > What Is Distracted Driving? > anything that takes your attention away from the task of safe driving. https://www.nhtsa.gov/risky-driving/distracted-driving https://www.nhtsa.gov/risky-driving/distracted-driving Now obviously having a hat land on a windshield and actually block visibility would be worse, but catching something falling out of the edge of your vision especially something odd like a falling hat would easily qualify. It’s also distracting pedestrians and so likely to result in other injuries.

alex_lav 2y ago
> As you seem to be massively misinformed: I am not "massively misinformed". I'm asking a person making a ridiculous claim (a hat falling from the sky will kill you) to support their claim. I'm seeing no mention of hats in your linked information. Please share hat related injuries, as that's what we're discussing.
- Retric 2y ago
  The claim is distracting drivers can result in deaths, it has little specific to hats. Rather it’s about the dropping. “Several properties of visual stimuli have been shown to capture attention, one of which is the onset of motion.“ https://link.springer.com/article/10.3758/s13414-018-1548-1 https://link.springer.com/article/10.3758/s13414-018-1548-1 > I am not "massively misinformed" Your ignorant response proves otherwise.
  - alex_lav 2y ago
    So, you're an expert in hat related deaths? I fail to see how rattling off irrelevant statistics makes you "informed". Still not a single reference to hat related deaths, the topic of our debate!
    - Retric 2y ago
      > I fail to see Clearly you don’t want to see, but you lost the argument anyway. Some basic advice, if you don’t want to come off as a fool try actually responding to an agreement as presented. You may still lose, but at least it doesn’t look like you’re hiding.
      - alex_lav 2y ago
        I’m not hiding from anything! You presented an argument (a hat falling from the sky will kill you) and then have been spouting irrelevant nonsense! I suspect that, if the notion of a hat falling 20 feet out of a window terrifies you this much, you’ve probably not engaged much with real people or the world around you, such that I wouldn’t really have expected anything different. Glad I was not wrong!
        Retric 2y ago
        > a hat falling from the sky will kill you Yet, again demonstrating you didn’t understand even the title of the article. As you clearly failed to read there in an ‘s’ at the end of “hats” at the top of the article. In this context that s means repeated hat drops. Summing up for a simple mind. Research shows falling hats distract people. Article showing intersection means drivers would get distracted. Research showed distracting drivers risks killing someone else. So with multiple events each risking killing someone taking place risk gasp increases. PS: It’s also illegal, but that’s a secondary concern.
        alex_lav 2y ago
        > Yet, again demonstrating you didn’t understand even the title of the article. As you clearly failed to read there in an ‘s’ at the end of “hats” at the top of the article. In this context that s means repeated hat drops. _Some_ hats? gasp. The horror! Go outside.