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I actually disagree. Archiving is a complex issue that touches on the interests not only of the general public but also those who produced or are covered in the

by t_mann 2y ago

I actually disagree. Archiving is a complex issue that touches on the interests not only of the general public but also those who produced or are covered in the materials to be archived, and the ways in which it might affect their interests might not even have been clear at the time of publication (think about LLM training as just one example), or their interests might not have been heard at the time. I think a public institution would be better placed than a private organization to deal with weighing the - evolving - legitimate interests of all parties concerned by the decisions of whether and how to archive something.

wizardforhire 2y ago
Came to initially disagree but realized I was making the same point. Archiving is in the matter of public interest which defaults to government. Resolving the conflict, the internet archive should be absorbed into the library congress. It would be a win-win, the internet archive would have the backing it needs both financially and legally and the library of congress will be able to modernize and expand it’s already daunting mandate allowing them to gain further public awareness and legitimacy.
- toomuchtodo 2y ago
  The Internet Archive works with the federal government currently, and while they receive benefits and incentives as a bonafide library, it is better (imho) they are distinct from the government to remain segregated from potential political influence and interference. This doesn’t prevent a federal agency tasked with preservation from kicking off archiving operations and operating a replicated copy of the Internet Archive (or a subset of the corpus). In the current operating environment, it is important to optimize for optionality. (No affiliation with the Internet Archive, just a concerned citizen)
nox101 2y ago
In today's political climate I can imagine one side or the other demanding that all material that espouses position X must be expunged from the archive as "wrong think"

by t_mann 2y ago

wizardforhire 2y ago

Came to initially disagree but realized I was making the same point. Archiving is in the matter of public interest which defaults to government. Resolving the conflict, the internet archive should be absorbed into the library congress. It would be a win-win, the internet archive would have the backing it needs both financially and legally and the library of congress will be able to modernize and expand it’s already daunting mandate allowing them to gain further public awareness and legitimacy.

toomuchtodo 2y ago
The Internet Archive works with the federal government currently, and while they receive benefits and incentives as a bonafide library, it is better (imho) they are distinct from the government to remain segregated from potential political influence and interference. This doesn’t prevent a federal agency tasked with preservation from kicking off archiving operations and operating a replicated copy of the Internet Archive (or a subset of the corpus). In the current operating environment, it is important to optimize for optionality. (No affiliation with the Internet Archive, just a concerned citizen)

nox101 2y ago

In today's political climate I can imagine one side or the other demanding that all material that espouses position X must be expunged from the archive as "wrong think"