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Why is this case located with the United States District Court For The Northern Mariana Islands?

cypherpunks01 2y ago
The case is federal, it's not confined in jurisdiction. But the plea deal is being entered there because of "defendant’s opposition to traveling to the continental United States to enter his guilty plea and the proximity of this federal U.S. District Court to the defendant’s country of citizenship, Australia, to which we expect he will return at the conclusion of the proceeding" https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nmid.6473/gov.uscourts.nmid.6473.3.0.pdf https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nmid.64...
- teractiveodular 2y ago
  Interesting. So he'll have to physically be present in the CNMI? Presumably he'll fly London-Tokyo-Saipan, since this is just about the only way to get there without transiting the US (including Hawaii).
  - cypherpunks01 2y ago
    Yes, he'll be in court in Saipan on Wednesday morning to enter the plea. Apparently he's already left London, according to WikiLeaks twitter account and other reports. Don't think he's flying coach though : )
  - martyvis 2y ago
    Apparently going via Bangkok. https://x.com/eevblog/status/1805402801658638356?t=NWDJGlqrIerPoKSVryAPtg&s=19 https://x.com/eevblog/status/1805402801658638356?t=NWDJGlqrI...
    - teractiveodular 2y ago
      Ah, it's a private jet (Bombardier Global 6000), not commercial aviation. Then again, after all he's been through, it would hardly be fair to subject Assange to the horrors of cattle class on United.
    - perilunar 2y ago
      London – Bangkok: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/9h-vtd#35d51855 https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/9h-vtd#35d51855 Bangkok – Saipan: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/9h-vtd#35d863e6 https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/9h-vtd#35d863e6
- r24y 2y ago
  > proximity of this federal U.S. District Court to the defendant’s country of citizenship, Australia This is a little disingenuous, and made me chuckle. It's faster and cheaper to get to Australia from the US mainland than it is from Saipan. Yes, it's physically closer as stated, but does not confer the claimed benefits.
  - beaeglebeachedd 2y ago
    That was my thought too. It's outside the mainland customs zone though which is full of fascist angry CBP agents at the ports of entry. Maybe CNMI immigration is easier? It's also faster/easier to escape maybe, although USVI is also outside mainland customs and easy to slip out of.
  - Symbiote 2y ago
    It's a chartered flight, so it will be faster and cheaper (assuming it continues to Australia).
jillesvangurp 2y ago
Because it's about as far away from the US mainland as you can get and relatively close to Australia where he's going. Also it's conveniently very far away from any journalists. At least, I can't imagine those shipping out in large numbers on short notice. So, they get to rubber stamp this and get it over with without too much scrutiny in the media before the man starts giving non-stop interviews in Sydney or wherever he is going in Australia.

The case is federal, it's not confined in jurisdiction. But the plea deal is being entered there because of "defendant’s opposition to traveling to the continental United States to enter his guilty plea and the proximity of this federal U.S. District Court to the defendant’s country of citizenship, Australia, to which we expect he will return at the conclusion of the proceeding" https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nmid.6473/gov.uscourts.nmid.6473.3.0.pdf https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nmid.64...

teractiveodular 2y ago
Interesting. So he'll have to physically be present in the CNMI? Presumably he'll fly London-Tokyo-Saipan, since this is just about the only way to get there without transiting the US (including Hawaii).
- cypherpunks01 2y ago
  Yes, he'll be in court in Saipan on Wednesday morning to enter the plea. Apparently he's already left London, according to WikiLeaks twitter account and other reports. Don't think he's flying coach though : )
- martyvis 2y ago
  Apparently going via Bangkok. https://x.com/eevblog/status/1805402801658638356?t=NWDJGlqrIerPoKSVryAPtg&s=19 https://x.com/eevblog/status/1805402801658638356?t=NWDJGlqrI...
  - teractiveodular 2y ago
    Ah, it's a private jet (Bombardier Global 6000), not commercial aviation. Then again, after all he's been through, it would hardly be fair to subject Assange to the horrors of cattle class on United.
  - perilunar 2y ago
    London – Bangkok: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/9h-vtd#35d51855 https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/9h-vtd#35d51855 Bangkok – Saipan: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/9h-vtd#35d863e6 https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/9h-vtd#35d863e6
r24y 2y ago
> proximity of this federal U.S. District Court to the defendant’s country of citizenship, Australia This is a little disingenuous, and made me chuckle. It's faster and cheaper to get to Australia from the US mainland than it is from Saipan. Yes, it's physically closer as stated, but does not confer the claimed benefits.
- beaeglebeachedd 2y ago
  That was my thought too. It's outside the mainland customs zone though which is full of fascist angry CBP agents at the ports of entry. Maybe CNMI immigration is easier? It's also faster/easier to escape maybe, although USVI is also outside mainland customs and easy to slip out of.
- Symbiote 2y ago
  It's a chartered flight, so it will be faster and cheaper (assuming it continues to Australia).

jillesvangurp 2y ago

Because it's about as far away from the US mainland as you can get and relatively close to Australia where he's going. Also it's conveniently very far away from any journalists. At least, I can't imagine those shipping out in large numbers on short notice. So, they get to rubber stamp this and get it over with without too much scrutiny in the media before the man starts giving non-stop interviews in Sydney or wherever he is going in Australia.