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I mean, here's Tesla's response: >We have reviewed logs and due to the terrain the accelerator may or may not disengage when the brake is depressed Can it be
by romwell 2y ago
I mean, here's Tesla's response:
>We have reviewed logs and due to the terrain the accelerator may or may not disengage when the brake is depressed
Can it be clearer than that?
They literally say that the Cybertruck may continue pressing on the gas pedal while the driver is slamming the brake pedal. That's, like, the first thing they tell you not to do.
Additionally, the engine being able to overpower the brakes while stationary (or close to that) is not something that you commonly see in automobiles. As in: I'm not aware of any other vehicle with brakes designed that badly.
As a cherry on top, the steering wheel was also non-operational during the incident. Which is surely an innovation in drive-by-wire implementations.
- jjav 2y ago> Which is surely an innovation in drive-by-wire implementations. I wish it was illegal to have drive by wire in brakes or steering. These are the two most vital systems in a car that I absolutely need to retain control of in order to stay alive. All software has some bugs, so we need to acknowledge that. Brakes and steering are too vital to let them be controlled by software alone, when we know there are always some bugs in all software.
- dzhiurgis 2y agoSo you'd ban 50% of planes too (Airbus)?
- inferiorhuman 2y agoYeah I mean I'm all for banning people from driving an Airbus on public roads. And Boeings, Bombardiers, Leers, and every other FBW airplane. We should probably extend this to all planes though, just to be safe.
- romwell 2y ago>So you'd ban 50% of planes too (Airbus)? Aside from the obvious answers (planes are regulated differently from cars, getting a pilot's license requires more training, etc), let me point out that autopilots for planes existed for over a century, but we are only getting some semblance of that in cars now because flying is a much easier control problem to solve. See, there's not many obstacles in the air.
- dzhiurgis 2y agoBy this year Tesla's fly-by-wire will be more reliable than Airbus simply due to number of miles driven and vehicles made.
- romwell 2y ago>By this year Tesla's fly-by-wire will be more reliable than Airbus simply due to number of miles driven and vehicles made. [citation needed] Flying is the safest mode of transportation by a large margin[1], so you'd need to fudge your metric quite a lot to arrive with that conclusion. That's before we get into the nitty-gritty of which incidents can be attributed to the autopilot failure to avoid apples-to-oranges comparisons. [1]https://www.cnn.com/travel/worried-about-flying-heres-what-the-experts-have-to-say/index.html https://www.cnn.com/travel/worried-about-flying-heres-what-t...
- dzhiurgis 2y agoUnsure why mention autopilot when talking fly-by-wire. Yes it won’t be as redundant as airplane fly-by-wire, but merely by putting miles and manufacturing hundreds of thousands copies one improves quality.
- jjav 2y agoI don't think Airbus makes cars? This thread is about cars. Planes don't have brakes (while flying) anyway.
- xethos 2y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_brake_(aeronautics) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_brake_(aeronautics)
- jimt1234 2y agoAm I the only one that thinks it's weird that Tesla (and most modern cars, I guess) is the only one with access to these log files? Is there any independent verification of authenticity of these files?
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- romwell 2y ago>Am I the only one that thinks it's weird that Tesla (and most modern cars, I guess) is the only one with access to these log files? Is there any independent verification of authenticity of these files? No, you're not the only one. These should be regulated like black boxes on aircraft, and mandated to be available to the NHTSA.
- Corrado 2y agoIsn't this true with other automakers as well? Do Ford or Honda provider their internal logs to 3rd parties?