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Sounds like the first problem super-intelligence (derived of this earth) should resolve is how to keep this system in dynamic equilibrium. Or, it should unwind

Sounds like the first problem super-intelligence (derived of this earth) should resolve is how to keep this system in dynamic equilibrium. Or, it should unwind itself if the solution is the problem.

soloist11 2y ago
The problem is the people who are hellbent on mechanizing everything with computers without stopping to think about the ultimate endpoint of their enterprise.
whythre 2y ago
We don’t have computers even in the ballpark of super intelligence, we have computers that are overhyped stochastic parrots.
- squircle 2y ago
  Overhyped stochastic parrot says what?
  - whythre 2y ago
    Believe whatever you want. But humans are far more than these sad obfuscated mechanical Turks being presented as ‘Artificial Intelligence.’
    - squircle 2y ago
      (I agree with you.)
      - whythre 2y ago
        Oof, my bad… tone is a tricky thing to judge in online land!
westurner 2y ago
"The Implications of Ending Groundwater Overdraft for Global Food Security" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40686383 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40686383 Computers made out of superconductors and Graphene instead of Copper would waste much less heat and water. "Ask HN: Can CPUs etc. be made from just graphene and/or other carbon forms?" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40719725 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40719725 Passive thermal design of data centers could reduce waste, too. Would heat vent out of server racks better if the servers were mounted vertically instead of like pizza boxes trapping heat? > - "Desalination system could produce freshwater that is cheaper than tap water" (2023) : "Extreme salt-resisting multistage solar distilation with thermohaline convection" (2023) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39999225 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39999225 Most datacenters are not yet able to return their steamed and boiled water back to the water supply for treatment. Datacenters that process and steam sanitize water would rely upon the water utility company to then also remove PFAs. Does OTEC work in datacenters; would that work eat some of the heat? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38222695 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38222695
__loam 2y ago
We can handwave any potential accountability away by pretending computers are magic.

Sounds like the first problem super-intelligence (derived of this earth) should resolve is how to keep this system in dynamic equilibrium. Or, it should unwind itself if the solution is the problem.

soloist11 2y ago

The problem is the people who are hellbent on mechanizing everything with computers without stopping to think about the ultimate endpoint of their enterprise.

whythre 2y ago

We don’t have computers even in the ballpark of super intelligence, we have computers that are overhyped stochastic parrots.

squircle 2y ago
Overhyped stochastic parrot says what?
- whythre 2y ago
  Believe whatever you want. But humans are far more than these sad obfuscated mechanical Turks being presented as ‘Artificial Intelligence.’
  - squircle 2y ago
    (I agree with you.)
    - whythre 2y ago
      Oof, my bad… tone is a tricky thing to judge in online land!

westurner 2y ago

"The Implications of Ending Groundwater Overdraft for Global Food Security" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40686383 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40686383 Computers made out of superconductors and Graphene instead of Copper would waste much less heat and water. "Ask HN: Can CPUs etc. be made from just graphene and/or other carbon forms?" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40719725 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40719725 Passive thermal design of data centers could reduce waste, too. Would heat vent out of server racks better if the servers were mounted vertically instead of like pizza boxes trapping heat? > - "Desalination system could produce freshwater that is cheaper than tap water" (2023) : "Extreme salt-resisting multistage solar distilation with thermohaline convection" (2023) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39999225 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39999225 Most datacenters are not yet able to return their steamed and boiled water back to the water supply for treatment. Datacenters that process and steam sanitize water would rely upon the water utility company to then also remove PFAs. Does OTEC work in datacenters; would that work eat some of the heat? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38222695 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38222695

__loam 2y ago

We can handwave any potential accountability away by pretending computers are magic.