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So, if you were thinking about using that particular app to read some feed containing something relatively private, guess what, they're reading it too. Which o

So, if you were thinking about using that particular app to read some feed containing something relatively private, guess what, they're reading it too. Which one? No names were named at any point in this post.

cxr 2y ago
Artykul <https://artykul.org/ https://artykul.org/>
- glenngillen 2y ago
  I doubt it is this one. A quick read of that page and there's a few features that immediately had me assuming data would be synced to the cloud.
  - deleted 2y ago
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  - lilyball 2y ago
    The cloud syncing stuff says "if you want", which implies it's opt-in behavior.
  - draw_down 2y ago
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  - rhaps0dy 2y ago
    But it has the "all articles are available offline and without an internet connection" exact quote in the landing page, and nothing else seems to do.
probably_wrong 2y ago
It's not hard to find out which one it is, though. I don't want to name names but the post gives a clear hint.
- _2d30 2y ago
  > I don't want to name names Why??
  - RobRivera 2y ago
    WHATS THAT ONE WORD!!? You know, that character trait for DnD that determines how gullible your character is? LIE ability was it? Row 3 d20 to LIE check?!
- DonHopkins 2y ago
  Why not name names? Who are you trying to protect, and why do they need protection from their own misdeeds, and why don't their users and everyone else deserve to know? They don't respect people's privacy, but deserve to have their own corporate privacy respected for some reason?
  - maxbond 2y ago
    It's possible that it's more of a personal ethic and a view towards their own actions (something like, "I don't disparage others") rather than that they view this company as deserving protection.
    - userbinator 2y ago
      The proliferation of "I don't disparage others" is how we got into this mess in the first place.
  - probably_wrong 2y ago
    Because I don't have all the facts and I can't put the genie back in the bottle. I think there needs to be a balance between "if you really want to research this alleged invasion of privacy then you should look here" and "that guy is bad, everybody go harass him". I haven't seen the logs and I haven't read the company's website in detail, so I'm not going to point the finger at someone for what could be a misunderstanding. Maybe the website does point out this behavior. Maybe it's a badly configured script. Maybe it's as bad as described. I certainly don't know and I'd rather not join an internet mob until I've done my due diligence.
n3t 2y ago
Searching for "all articles are available offline and without an internet connection" (with the quotes) in your favorite search engine might help.
- Tao3300 2y ago
  It's the third result for me, after Rachel By the Bay and... your comment.
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IncreasePosts 2y ago
I feel like this happens every time we see one of her blog posts - she tries very hard to not provide any kind of specific information about anything she is writing about. Maybe it is to stop fanboys from harassing her when she trashes their favorite product or company, but it is the same technique used by people who are just making up stories.
- lolinder 2y ago
  > Maybe it is to stop fanboys from harassing her when she trashes their favorite product or company, I assumed the opposite: she knows that she has readers who will go trash on the developers of whatever random app she happens to be criticizing and doesn't want to be responsible for inciting an internet mob. In this case she provided enough information that anyone who was seriously concerned about their feed reader could easily find out if it was theirs—searching for the quoted text turns up the guilty RSS reader, her post, and a rip-off of the guilty reader which re-uses their marketing blurb. That's easy enough for someone who's motivated to find out if they're safe, but maybe not enough for a mob to form?

cxr 2y ago

Artykul <https://artykul.org/ https://artykul.org/>

glenngillen 2y ago
I doubt it is this one. A quick read of that page and there's a few features that immediately had me assuming data would be synced to the cloud.
- deleted 2y ago
  [deleted]
- lilyball 2y ago
  The cloud syncing stuff says "if you want", which implies it's opt-in behavior.
- draw_down 2y ago
  [dead]
- rhaps0dy 2y ago
  But it has the "all articles are available offline and without an internet connection" exact quote in the landing page, and nothing else seems to do.

probably_wrong 2y ago

It's not hard to find out which one it is, though. I don't want to name names but the post gives a clear hint.

_2d30 2y ago
> I don't want to name names Why??
- RobRivera 2y ago
  WHATS THAT ONE WORD!!? You know, that character trait for DnD that determines how gullible your character is? LIE ability was it? Row 3 d20 to LIE check?!
DonHopkins 2y ago
Why not name names? Who are you trying to protect, and why do they need protection from their own misdeeds, and why don't their users and everyone else deserve to know? They don't respect people's privacy, but deserve to have their own corporate privacy respected for some reason?
- maxbond 2y ago
  It's possible that it's more of a personal ethic and a view towards their own actions (something like, "I don't disparage others") rather than that they view this company as deserving protection.
  - userbinator 2y ago
    The proliferation of "I don't disparage others" is how we got into this mess in the first place.
- probably_wrong 2y ago
  Because I don't have all the facts and I can't put the genie back in the bottle. I think there needs to be a balance between "if you really want to research this alleged invasion of privacy then you should look here" and "that guy is bad, everybody go harass him". I haven't seen the logs and I haven't read the company's website in detail, so I'm not going to point the finger at someone for what could be a misunderstanding. Maybe the website does point out this behavior. Maybe it's a badly configured script. Maybe it's as bad as described. I certainly don't know and I'd rather not join an internet mob until I've done my due diligence.

n3t 2y ago

Searching for "all articles are available offline and without an internet connection" (with the quotes) in your favorite search engine might help.

Tao3300 2y ago
It's the third result for me, after Rachel By the Bay and... your comment.
- deleted 2y ago
  [deleted]

IncreasePosts 2y ago

I feel like this happens every time we see one of her blog posts - she tries very hard to not provide any kind of specific information about anything she is writing about. Maybe it is to stop fanboys from harassing her when she trashes their favorite product or company, but it is the same technique used by people who are just making up stories.

lolinder 2y ago
> Maybe it is to stop fanboys from harassing her when she trashes their favorite product or company, I assumed the opposite: she knows that she has readers who will go trash on the developers of whatever random app she happens to be criticizing and doesn't want to be responsible for inciting an internet mob. In this case she provided enough information that anyone who was seriously concerned about their feed reader could easily find out if it was theirs—searching for the quoted text turns up the guilty RSS reader, her post, and a rip-off of the guilty reader which re-uses their marketing blurb. That's easy enough for someone who's motivated to find out if they're safe, but maybe not enough for a mob to form?