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"Very difficult" is a bit of an exaggeration. Don't connect to the internet, press 1 hotkey and enter 1 line of text ("OOBE\bypassnro"). While it's absolutely

"Very difficult" is a bit of an exaggeration. Don't connect to the internet, press 1 hotkey and enter 1 line of text ("OOBE\bypassnro"). While it's absolutely stupid that it needs to be done at all, it's not "very difficult".

Arcanum-XIII 2y ago
I don't need to that on macos. Or Linux. Or whatever the fuck I want to use. I don't need to disconnect from my network either. It just "work".
- ziddoap 2y ago
  Did you miss this part of my comment? >While it's absolutely stupid that it needs to be done at all
- Biganon 2y ago
  Then vote with your wallet and stop using this piece of shit of a software
lolinder 2y ago
I think most people understood that having step 1 be "know to look up the latest Microsoft account bypass instructions" makes a process very difficult. If we want to be really pedantic, maybe I should have said "intentionally extremely obscure"—would that phrasing be satisfactory?
- ziddoap 2y ago
  We just have really different ideas on what "very difficult" and "extremely obscure" are. Use whatever phrasing you want, no worries.
freedomben 2y ago
> Don't connect to the internet, press 1 hotkey and enter 1 line of text ("OOBE\bypassnro"). I've been a Linux user for decades through some dark days and some "hard" distros, and I would call that "very difficult". Part of the difficulty is knowing what you don't know, and that absolutely qualifies.
- ziddoap 2y ago
  "windows 11 local account" in Google has this bypass in the first result. I Googled things when I setup various Linux distros as well, and I didn't consider that to be very difficult. For a tech forum, I'm surprised at these responses. I have to Google shit all the time, including "can I do X in Y". I guess I'm the one out of touch, sorry.
  - lolinder 2y ago
    > For a tech forum, I'm surprised at these responses. I have to Google shit all the time I don't think anyone here is saying that they personally would have had difficulty installing Windows without a Microsoft account. I've done so myself. What we're doing is empathizing with people who don't typically post on tech forums—people like my dad who install Windows on their own but don't regularly dig deep into the system internals. When I went through the process of installing Windows without setting up a Microsoft account I was appalled by how hard Microsoft is working to make sure that most people don't figure it out, and that was back in the days when all you had to do was not connect to Wi-Fi. It's great that you'd be able to figure it out, but that's in spite of Microsoft's best efforts to hide the path.
    - ziddoap 2y ago
      That's a fair call out. I'm generally either at work or just done work when I'm on HN so I'm in "work mode". The next time I'm called on for family tech support on a Sunday, I'll think back to this thread and be in a better position to empathize with a non-techie view.

Arcanum-XIII 2y ago

I don't need to that on macos. Or Linux. Or whatever the fuck I want to use. I don't need to disconnect from my network either. It just "work".

ziddoap 2y ago
Did you miss this part of my comment? >While it's absolutely stupid that it needs to be done at all
Biganon 2y ago
Then vote with your wallet and stop using this piece of shit of a software

lolinder 2y ago

I think most people understood that having step 1 be "know to look up the latest Microsoft account bypass instructions" makes a process very difficult. If we want to be really pedantic, maybe I should have said "intentionally extremely obscure"—would that phrasing be satisfactory?

ziddoap 2y ago
We just have really different ideas on what "very difficult" and "extremely obscure" are. Use whatever phrasing you want, no worries.

freedomben 2y ago

> Don't connect to the internet, press 1 hotkey and enter 1 line of text ("OOBE\bypassnro"). I've been a Linux user for decades through some dark days and some "hard" distros, and I would call that "very difficult". Part of the difficulty is knowing what you don't know, and that absolutely qualifies.

ziddoap 2y ago
"windows 11 local account" in Google has this bypass in the first result. I Googled things when I setup various Linux distros as well, and I didn't consider that to be very difficult. For a tech forum, I'm surprised at these responses. I have to Google shit all the time, including "can I do X in Y". I guess I'm the one out of touch, sorry.
- lolinder 2y ago
  > For a tech forum, I'm surprised at these responses. I have to Google shit all the time I don't think anyone here is saying that they personally would have had difficulty installing Windows without a Microsoft account. I've done so myself. What we're doing is empathizing with people who don't typically post on tech forums—people like my dad who install Windows on their own but don't regularly dig deep into the system internals. When I went through the process of installing Windows without setting up a Microsoft account I was appalled by how hard Microsoft is working to make sure that most people don't figure it out, and that was back in the days when all you had to do was not connect to Wi-Fi. It's great that you'd be able to figure it out, but that's in spite of Microsoft's best efforts to hide the path.
  - ziddoap 2y ago
    That's a fair call out. I'm generally either at work or just done work when I'm on HN so I'm in "work mode". The next time I'm called on for family tech support on a Sunday, I'll think back to this thread and be in a better position to empathize with a non-techie view.