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At least a Mac alllows you to have a local account without iCloud. We are not allowed iCloud accounts on our work lappies due to the risk of client data leakage

by mianos 2y ago

At least a Mac alllows you to have a local account without iCloud. We are not allowed iCloud accounts on our work lappies due to the risk of client data leakage. It seems to me, unless the Microsoft cloud is 100% trusted you would not be able to use it at many places. (We do have centrally managed computers and accounts).

nofunsir 2y ago
Microsoft cloud is[1] indeed trusted: "Office 365 GCC High"[2]. [1] Read: "can be" [2] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/office365/servicedescriptions/office-365-platform-service-description/office-365-us-government/gcc-high-and-dod https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/office365/servicedescripti...
ilamont 2y ago
Tangential: If you use Office on your Mac, it is impossible to use your own hard drive as the default save location, or remove OneDrive as an option. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/all/i-want-to-default-files-saving-on-my-mac-onedrive/3f09fa84-0bd1-4c2b-8097-a76279406a61 https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/all/i-wan... Very, very frustrating for non-technical family members who can't find files in Documents or some other local hard drive location.
walterbell 2y ago
> We are not allowed iCloud accounts on our work lappies Is it possible to have an Apple account for apps and security updates, without iCloud? On iOS, the default login panel in Settings will sign into both iCloud and App Store. To avoid iCloud, one must use the App Store app to sign into "Media and Purchases", rather than using Settings.
- mianos 2y ago
  Yes. It would be a pretty useless lappy if I did not get updates. Oh, no app store as well. Installations come through something called jamf. Updates are controlled centrally. In fact if you find one of our lappies on the street, it's pretty much useless as it's somehow connected to apple and our account. A full install from USB comes right up to a work login. I got a broken one once and fixed it (PCB level repair) thinking I'll just use it myself as it was to be thrown out. In the end I just sent it back to the mothership. I have a home desktop as well, and I don't find the work one much harder to use.
rldjbpin 2y ago
maybe for macs. in ios, however, icloud backup for EVERYTHING is enabled by default IIRC and you need to manually toggle everything off before you run out of the paltry 5 GB you get. m$ finds a way to bring together the worst of everything together.

by mianos 2y ago

nofunsir 2y ago

Microsoft cloud is[1] indeed trusted: "Office 365 GCC High"[2]. [1] Read: "can be" [2] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/office365/servicedescriptions/office-365-platform-service-description/office-365-us-government/gcc-high-and-dod https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/office365/servicedescripti...

ilamont 2y ago

Tangential: If you use Office on your Mac, it is impossible to use your own hard drive as the default save location, or remove OneDrive as an option. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/all/i-want-to-default-files-saving-on-my-mac-onedrive/3f09fa84-0bd1-4c2b-8097-a76279406a61 https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/all/i-wan... Very, very frustrating for non-technical family members who can't find files in Documents or some other local hard drive location.

walterbell 2y ago

> We are not allowed iCloud accounts on our work lappies Is it possible to have an Apple account for apps and security updates, without iCloud? On iOS, the default login panel in Settings will sign into both iCloud and App Store. To avoid iCloud, one must use the App Store app to sign into "Media and Purchases", rather than using Settings.

mianos 2y ago
Yes. It would be a pretty useless lappy if I did not get updates. Oh, no app store as well. Installations come through something called jamf. Updates are controlled centrally. In fact if you find one of our lappies on the street, it's pretty much useless as it's somehow connected to apple and our account. A full install from USB comes right up to a work login. I got a broken one once and fixed it (PCB level repair) thinking I'll just use it myself as it was to be thrown out. In the end I just sent it back to the mothership. I have a home desktop as well, and I don't find the work one much harder to use.

rldjbpin 2y ago

maybe for macs. in ios, however, icloud backup for EVERYTHING is enabled by default IIRC and you need to manually toggle everything off before you run out of the paltry 5 GB you get. m$ finds a way to bring together the worst of everything together.