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Uber drivers have been able to see the approximate destination before accepting the ride for over a year now in all markets.

by avree 2y ago

pavel_lishin 2y ago
Yeah, which is why it's confusing that my mom had two drivers reject her the last time she needed to get to the airport when I wasn't able to give her a ride to JFK.
- kevmo314 2y ago
  Wow, we've gone full circle. I remember when being able to reliably get an Uber to JFK was a selling point over taxis.
  - holowoodman 2y ago
    Isn't there a subway connection or something? I mean, it is an international airport and a big city...
    - poorlydefined 2y ago
      Taking the subway with potentially heavy check-in bags isn’t always possible. I wouldn’t say it’s the most convenient trip and I can understand why someone would prefer an Uber or taxi option.
      - DEADMINCE 2y ago
        It's always possible, just rarely preferred and almost never easy.
    - lmm 2y ago
      The US has bizarre funding rules that made it effectively impossible to have a through ride from municipal public transport to the airport until recently.
    - CPLX 2y ago
      LMFAO welcome to New York. We have three major large scale airports, and none of them are connected to the subway. It would be comical if it wasn’t so sad.
      - crazygringo 2y ago
        That's not really true. You can take the subway to JFK -- it's the A train. Or even faster, take the LIRR. For both, you have to transfer to the AirTrain for the last short stretch, but that train brings you directly to each terminal so you'd need to get on it anyways. And you can take NJ Transit light rail from Penn Station to Newark, it's 3 stops. It's not technically the subway -- but it's better because it goes faster and there are less stops. LaGuardia is the only airport you can't get to by train -- there was an attempt [1] but it was cancelled last year. But one of the big reasons for cancellation is that it was crazy expensive and you can already get to the airport pretty easily if you're willing to hop on bus connection from the subway or LIRR. So I'd say the situation isn't that sad. For Newark and JFK it's totally fine, and for LaGuardia you just need to add a bus. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AirTrain_LaGuardia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AirTrain_LaGuardia
        CPLX 2y ago
        Yeah no. You can take the subway to a LIRR station called Jamaica or a parking lot in Howard Beach. Neither is actually at the airport let alone within a mile of an actual check in counter. NJ transit isn’t a subway, and even so you still can’t take it to Newark Airport. You can get off a mile or two from the nearest terminal. Utterly inexplicably, the PATH train, which is reasonably described as a subway system, stops an entire stop short of even doing that, despite the tracks continuing onwards to that AirTrain station. Once you get off each of these subways, in a location that is near to, but definitely not in, an airport, you may choose to take a slow and oddly expensive rubber wheeled bus that sort of is a monorail (and is certainly not a subway) device onwards to a terminal. And of course at LaGuardia you can’t do even that. So yes, it is “really true” that you can’t take the fucking subway to the airport. All you have to is try it, get off the subway, and then ask “am I in an airport now?” and if the answer is no then you’ve figured out the problem.
    - InitialLastName 2y ago
      The US has a peculiar bit of transit bureaucracy that (until 2021) made it difficult to fund integrating airports into wider transit networks. Airports could charge fees to passengers to fund transportation improvements, but only if those transit networks were exclusively for transit to and from the airport, so you couldn't just add a subway stop. JFK, for example, has its own train ("Airtrain JFK") that goes from a near-ish subway station to the airport. That makes it take more than an hour on transit (including ~2 transfers and 15 mins of walking) to get from Grand Central Station to JFK. It also costs more than $10 total, as opposed to the $3 that a subway ride costs.
    - pavel_lishin 2y ago
      Yes, but my mother doesn't live in New York proper, and getting there via public transit would require, uh, I think four different things? Bus to the train to the subway to the airtrain.
- dylan604 2y ago
  Some drivers just don't like going to airports. It's not that confusing. It's possible that the fact they could see the destination is precisely why the rejected it.
  - pavel_lishin 2y ago
    Maybe I don't understand how Uber works, but why would they have accepted it to begin with?
    - dylan604 2y ago
      Drivers are often assigned their next ride while they are still dropping off their current passenger(s), so if they are a good driver they won't look at the details of the next ride until they have dropped off their current passenger(s). Once they are stopped and able to safely look at their device again, they can at that point decide they don't want the next ride. At that point, the app has to play roulette to find another driver.
- WheatMillington 2y ago
  Why don't drivers want to go to the airport?
  - dylan604 2y ago
    If you didn't have to go to the airport, would you want to go? Taking a single rider to the airport chews up a lot of time OR you can possibly pick up multiple shorter rides in the same span of time without having to deal with an airport.
    - WheatMillington 2y ago
      But there are ALWAYS people looking for rides to AND from the airport. And they're generally good long rides.
      - dylan604 2y ago
        And some people like licorice. Not really sure the point you're trying to make.
blendergeek 2y ago
> in all markets. I am an Uber driver. I do not see the approximate destination prior to pickup. I don't know what percentage of Uber markets actually have that feature.
vsuperpower2020 2y ago
You're very confident about this, aren't you?

Uber drivers have been able to see the approximate destination before accepting the ride for over a year now in all markets.

by avree 2y ago

Uber drivers have been able to see the approximate destination before accepting the ride for over a year now in all markets.

pavel_lishin 2y ago

Yeah, which is why it's confusing that my mom had two drivers reject her the last time she needed to get to the airport when I wasn't able to give her a ride to JFK.

kevmo314 2y ago
Wow, we've gone full circle. I remember when being able to reliably get an Uber to JFK was a selling point over taxis.
- holowoodman 2y ago
  Isn't there a subway connection or something? I mean, it is an international airport and a big city...
  - poorlydefined 2y ago
    Taking the subway with potentially heavy check-in bags isn’t always possible. I wouldn’t say it’s the most convenient trip and I can understand why someone would prefer an Uber or taxi option.
    - DEADMINCE 2y ago
      It's always possible, just rarely preferred and almost never easy.
  - lmm 2y ago
    The US has bizarre funding rules that made it effectively impossible to have a through ride from municipal public transport to the airport until recently.
  - CPLX 2y ago
    LMFAO welcome to New York. We have three major large scale airports, and none of them are connected to the subway. It would be comical if it wasn’t so sad.
    - crazygringo 2y ago
      That's not really true. You can take the subway to JFK -- it's the A train. Or even faster, take the LIRR. For both, you have to transfer to the AirTrain for the last short stretch, but that train brings you directly to each terminal so you'd need to get on it anyways. And you can take NJ Transit light rail from Penn Station to Newark, it's 3 stops. It's not technically the subway -- but it's better because it goes faster and there are less stops. LaGuardia is the only airport you can't get to by train -- there was an attempt [1] but it was cancelled last year. But one of the big reasons for cancellation is that it was crazy expensive and you can already get to the airport pretty easily if you're willing to hop on bus connection from the subway or LIRR. So I'd say the situation isn't that sad. For Newark and JFK it's totally fine, and for LaGuardia you just need to add a bus. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AirTrain_LaGuardia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AirTrain_LaGuardia
      - CPLX 2y ago
        Yeah no. You can take the subway to a LIRR station called Jamaica or a parking lot in Howard Beach. Neither is actually at the airport let alone within a mile of an actual check in counter. NJ transit isn’t a subway, and even so you still can’t take it to Newark Airport. You can get off a mile or two from the nearest terminal. Utterly inexplicably, the PATH train, which is reasonably described as a subway system, stops an entire stop short of even doing that, despite the tracks continuing onwards to that AirTrain station. Once you get off each of these subways, in a location that is near to, but definitely not in, an airport, you may choose to take a slow and oddly expensive rubber wheeled bus that sort of is a monorail (and is certainly not a subway) device onwards to a terminal. And of course at LaGuardia you can’t do even that. So yes, it is “really true” that you can’t take the fucking subway to the airport. All you have to is try it, get off the subway, and then ask “am I in an airport now?” and if the answer is no then you’ve figured out the problem.
  - InitialLastName 2y ago
    The US has a peculiar bit of transit bureaucracy that (until 2021) made it difficult to fund integrating airports into wider transit networks. Airports could charge fees to passengers to fund transportation improvements, but only if those transit networks were exclusively for transit to and from the airport, so you couldn't just add a subway stop. JFK, for example, has its own train ("Airtrain JFK") that goes from a near-ish subway station to the airport. That makes it take more than an hour on transit (including ~2 transfers and 15 mins of walking) to get from Grand Central Station to JFK. It also costs more than $10 total, as opposed to the $3 that a subway ride costs.
  - pavel_lishin 2y ago
    Yes, but my mother doesn't live in New York proper, and getting there via public transit would require, uh, I think four different things? Bus to the train to the subway to the airtrain.
dylan604 2y ago
Some drivers just don't like going to airports. It's not that confusing. It's possible that the fact they could see the destination is precisely why the rejected it.
- pavel_lishin 2y ago
  Maybe I don't understand how Uber works, but why would they have accepted it to begin with?
  - dylan604 2y ago
    Drivers are often assigned their next ride while they are still dropping off their current passenger(s), so if they are a good driver they won't look at the details of the next ride until they have dropped off their current passenger(s). Once they are stopped and able to safely look at their device again, they can at that point decide they don't want the next ride. At that point, the app has to play roulette to find another driver.
WheatMillington 2y ago
Why don't drivers want to go to the airport?
- dylan604 2y ago
  If you didn't have to go to the airport, would you want to go? Taking a single rider to the airport chews up a lot of time OR you can possibly pick up multiple shorter rides in the same span of time without having to deal with an airport.
  - WheatMillington 2y ago
    But there are ALWAYS people looking for rides to AND from the airport. And they're generally good long rides.
    - dylan604 2y ago
      And some people like licorice. Not really sure the point you're trying to make.

blendergeek 2y ago

> in all markets. I am an Uber driver. I do not see the approximate destination prior to pickup. I don't know what percentage of Uber markets actually have that feature.

vsuperpower2020 2y ago

You're very confident about this, aren't you?