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So in this theory, people with rough childhoods have less mental illness and those with pleasant childhoods have greater mental illness?

Iulioh 2y ago
...these are extremes and i bet someone with a "rough childhood" will have greater mental illness chances because...material conditions but it depends how you define it. But i think not begin totally sheltered from every evil of the world will probably lead to a more well adjusted adult
smegsicle 2y ago
if by rough childhood you mean being safely exposed to rough concepts under the supervision of caring and mentally stable parents, and by pleasant you mean anything else, then i think you got it
RoyalHenOil 2y ago
No, trauma is harmful. The whole idea here is to reduce the risk of trauma, not cause trauma. Think of it like this: Growing up in an excessively sanitized environment leaves children's immune systems weak and makes them susceptible to serious diseases later. The solution: Give children inoculations, let them play outside, etc., to exercise their immune systems in safe conditions. Not the solution: Give children serious diseases.
- entropicdrifter 2y ago
  This, this and this. And just like how kids who spend too much time in sanitized indoor environments are more likely to develop allergies and other autoimmune disorders, kids who are kept psychologically sheltered to too large a degree are more likely to develop anxiety disorders as adults. When "getting everything perfect" is normal to you and not a refreshing exception, you feel like you're a screwup most of the time even when you haven't done anything wrong besides being too hard on yourself.
- WorkerBee28474 2y ago
  > Not the solution: Give children serious diseases. Actually giving serious diseases (well, infestations) is being investigated as a solution: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helminthic_therapy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helminthic_therapy
  - RoyalHenOil 2y ago
    I would consider this an example of a safe exposure to allow the immune system to exercise, rather than a serious disease, unless the plan is to literally to make children grow up sickly and malnourished. Children who grow up with serious diseases (i.e., diseases that cause them serious health problems) are weakened for the rest of their lives, which leaves them more vulnerable to illness later. That is not the goal of this therapy. They will keep the parasite population in check (e.g., by using parasites that cannot reproduce on their own) to ensure that the patient's health is improved by the treatment, not worsened by it.
kergonath 2y ago
You’re exaggerating, there are degrees between “being exposed to disturbing concepts” (which does not imply abuse) and “rough childhood” (which does, or at least mistreatment). You could frame it the other way: “are people with sheltered childhood more likely to suffer mental illness”? And my experience would suggest that the answer is “yes”.

Iulioh 2y ago

...these are extremes and i bet someone with a "rough childhood" will have greater mental illness chances because...material conditions but it depends how you define it. But i think not begin totally sheltered from every evil of the world will probably lead to a more well adjusted adult

smegsicle 2y ago

if by rough childhood you mean being safely exposed to rough concepts under the supervision of caring and mentally stable parents, and by pleasant you mean anything else, then i think you got it

RoyalHenOil 2y ago

No, trauma is harmful. The whole idea here is to reduce the risk of trauma, not cause trauma. Think of it like this: Growing up in an excessively sanitized environment leaves children's immune systems weak and makes them susceptible to serious diseases later. The solution: Give children inoculations, let them play outside, etc., to exercise their immune systems in safe conditions. Not the solution: Give children serious diseases.

entropicdrifter 2y ago
This, this and this. And just like how kids who spend too much time in sanitized indoor environments are more likely to develop allergies and other autoimmune disorders, kids who are kept psychologically sheltered to too large a degree are more likely to develop anxiety disorders as adults. When "getting everything perfect" is normal to you and not a refreshing exception, you feel like you're a screwup most of the time even when you haven't done anything wrong besides being too hard on yourself.
WorkerBee28474 2y ago
> Not the solution: Give children serious diseases. Actually giving serious diseases (well, infestations) is being investigated as a solution: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helminthic_therapy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helminthic_therapy
- RoyalHenOil 2y ago
  I would consider this an example of a safe exposure to allow the immune system to exercise, rather than a serious disease, unless the plan is to literally to make children grow up sickly and malnourished. Children who grow up with serious diseases (i.e., diseases that cause them serious health problems) are weakened for the rest of their lives, which leaves them more vulnerable to illness later. That is not the goal of this therapy. They will keep the parasite population in check (e.g., by using parasites that cannot reproduce on their own) to ensure that the patient's health is improved by the treatment, not worsened by it.

kergonath 2y ago

You’re exaggerating, there are degrees between “being exposed to disturbing concepts” (which does not imply abuse) and “rough childhood” (which does, or at least mistreatment). You could frame it the other way: “are people with sheltered childhood more likely to suffer mental illness”? And my experience would suggest that the answer is “yes”.