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My knee jerk reaction to the title was a strong feeling that racist, sexist, and ageist tropes absolutely should be sanitized out of fairy tails. But this artic

My knee jerk reaction to the title was a strong feeling that racist, sexist, and ageist tropes absolutely should be sanitized out of fairy tails. But this article discusses a different kind of sanitizing, and i feel more comfortable with its premise.

NoMoreNicksLeft 2y ago
> My knee jerk reaction to the title was a strong feeling that racist, sexist, and ageist tropes absolutely should be How can we ever have our utopia, if there are hints in centuries-old stories that people were once racist or "ageist"? Why can Winston not stuff all these fairy tales down the memory hole?
zer00eyz 2y ago
Should we sanitize history of the nazis? How about Rome? Be less precious. The world is a brutal place and the lessons of that should NEVER be forgotten.
- petesergeant 2y ago
  I’m unclear how teaching someone about an unpleasant historical event is perpetuating “racist, sexist, and ageist tropes”?
  - zer00eyz 2y ago
    You don't just pretend bad things don't exist and then have them magically stop happening. What is being advocated for is control of language. It is UNACCEPTABLE. Part of me wants to hand out copies of 1984. I fear that some of you would see it as a how to manual.
- whimsicalism 2y ago
  i don’t think this is a fair comparison to sanitizing racism. it would be more like if we taught the story of the Nazis from the perspective of Nazism as wrongfully defeated. we certainly do sanitize narratives of history so the victors are the good guys
  - zer00eyz 2y ago
    Well we have two good lessons on how we deal with history. Germany, and Japan. One is rather recalcitrant for its actions the other is in abject denial that they even did anything wrong. Not teaching the ills of the past has an impact.
    - woopwoop24 2y ago
      yeah and both ways are wrong. I have as much in common with the the german nazis as i have with the japanese war crimes with the chinese and i am german. We should have strived for understanding that racism is to be fought against and not "hey these countries are bad because they lost" If you have seen the horrors what the americans did to the vietnamese or other way around, or the serbs against their neighbors the bosnians, you come to the conclusion every country is shit. We need to understand as a species that in order to evolve, we need to break out of the violence and dumb wars, over resources. We have so much potential and we are wasting it, because of stupid and greedy people pushing misery and hate. Don't get me started on religion
inquirerGeneral 2y ago
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nemo44x 2y ago
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NoMoreNicksLeft 2y ago

> My knee jerk reaction to the title was a strong feeling that racist, sexist, and ageist tropes absolutely should be How can we ever have our utopia, if there are hints in centuries-old stories that people were once racist or "ageist"? Why can Winston not stuff all these fairy tales down the memory hole?

zer00eyz 2y ago

Should we sanitize history of the nazis? How about Rome? Be less precious. The world is a brutal place and the lessons of that should NEVER be forgotten.

petesergeant 2y ago
I’m unclear how teaching someone about an unpleasant historical event is perpetuating “racist, sexist, and ageist tropes”?
- zer00eyz 2y ago
  You don't just pretend bad things don't exist and then have them magically stop happening. What is being advocated for is control of language. It is UNACCEPTABLE. Part of me wants to hand out copies of 1984. I fear that some of you would see it as a how to manual.
whimsicalism 2y ago
i don’t think this is a fair comparison to sanitizing racism. it would be more like if we taught the story of the Nazis from the perspective of Nazism as wrongfully defeated. we certainly do sanitize narratives of history so the victors are the good guys
- zer00eyz 2y ago
  Well we have two good lessons on how we deal with history. Germany, and Japan. One is rather recalcitrant for its actions the other is in abject denial that they even did anything wrong. Not teaching the ills of the past has an impact.
  - woopwoop24 2y ago
    yeah and both ways are wrong. I have as much in common with the the german nazis as i have with the japanese war crimes with the chinese and i am german. We should have strived for understanding that racism is to be fought against and not "hey these countries are bad because they lost" If you have seen the horrors what the americans did to the vietnamese or other way around, or the serbs against their neighbors the bosnians, you come to the conclusion every country is shit. We need to understand as a species that in order to evolve, we need to break out of the violence and dumb wars, over resources. We have so much potential and we are wasting it, because of stupid and greedy people pushing misery and hate. Don't get me started on religion

inquirerGeneral 2y ago

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