> if we don't understand biological consciousness, it just means we've created a very capable computational system. This is the conceit of humanity. Conscious

> if we don't understand biological consciousness, it just means we've created a very capable computational system. This is the conceit of humanity. Consciousness does not rest on us. Further, we are so inescapably biased here. A system cannot study itself and make any meaningful progress. We are shackled by the limitations of this bias, bogged down by the muck and mire of disentangling ourselves from the equation. > the approach of abandoning the brain to go play with our toys In 10 years this comment will not age well. > strikes me as profoundly arrogant, and more importantly, missing the point You've missed the point. The best way to study consciousness is by removing as much of ourselves from the equation. We must first understand consciousness through an external conscious entity. Only then can we introspect and learn something through biology.