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Yes, it is! Look at how much smaller MacOS market share is compared to iOS in their respective markets. Stated preference vs. revealed preference.

grishka 2y ago
US and Japan are the two unusual countries where iOS has more market share than Android. In the rest of the world, iOS is maybe 20%. For computers the situation is exacerbated by the fact that many people own one mostly for gaming, which means it's going to be Windows. Whereas an iPhone is considered a status symbol.
- rmbyrro 2y ago
  > In the rest of the world, iOS is maybe 20% If you count the number of devices. By app store sales, the figure is maybe 50%, probably higher.
detourdog 2y ago
MacOS also isn’t connected to a cellular network.
- grishka 2y ago
  And what difference does that make with regard to software distribution models? It can easily be connected to a cellular network using one of those USB modem sticks btw.
  - detourdog 2y ago
    Being connected to a cellular network puts different responsibilities on the platform vendor due to the global reach of a software problem.
    - grishka 2y ago
      What "software problem" are you talking about?
      - detourdog 2y ago
        I’m talking about the carrier network requiring protections. The carrier like to verify devices on their network. There was a time when booking up a fax was illegal. Apple is responsible for the activity of the devices they create on the carrier network.
        grishka 2y ago
        > Apple is responsible for the activity of the devices they create on the carrier network. Where did you get this idea? You are responsible for what your device does on the network. It's in your contract with your carrier. If you interfere with others' ability to use their phones on the same network, that has a good chance of the communications authority getting involved. But we're talking about apps. The worst thing an app can do is DDoS something. That would just make you run out of data very quickly. Or auto-dial numbers (Android allows that, with a permission for which the app has to ask you), you'll just rack up an enormous bill and will learn to never make this mistake again. Or spam SMS, same thing.
        detourdog 2y ago
        Eveyone can interpret the various rules and regulations. I think you should do more research and reflection on how easy it is to be in cellular network.
        grishka 2y ago
        The "being in cellular network" is done by the modem. It's a separate CPU core that doesn't run any user code. If you jailbreak the user OS, you can send AT commands to it, which is still harmless as far as RF interference is concerned. But I really struggle to understand how any of this relates to the distribution of apps that run in sandboxes.
hot_gril 2y ago
Are you implying that macOS has a smaller market share because of the lack of restrictions? Cause its competition, Windows, is less restricted if anything.

grishka 2y ago

US and Japan are the two unusual countries where iOS has more market share than Android. In the rest of the world, iOS is maybe 20%. For computers the situation is exacerbated by the fact that many people own one mostly for gaming, which means it's going to be Windows. Whereas an iPhone is considered a status symbol.

rmbyrro 2y ago
> In the rest of the world, iOS is maybe 20% If you count the number of devices. By app store sales, the figure is maybe 50%, probably higher.

detourdog 2y ago

MacOS also isn’t connected to a cellular network.

grishka 2y ago
And what difference does that make with regard to software distribution models? It can easily be connected to a cellular network using one of those USB modem sticks btw.
- detourdog 2y ago
  Being connected to a cellular network puts different responsibilities on the platform vendor due to the global reach of a software problem.
  - grishka 2y ago
    What "software problem" are you talking about?
    - detourdog 2y ago
      I’m talking about the carrier network requiring protections. The carrier like to verify devices on their network. There was a time when booking up a fax was illegal. Apple is responsible for the activity of the devices they create on the carrier network.
      - grishka 2y ago
        > Apple is responsible for the activity of the devices they create on the carrier network. Where did you get this idea? You are responsible for what your device does on the network. It's in your contract with your carrier. If you interfere with others' ability to use their phones on the same network, that has a good chance of the communications authority getting involved. But we're talking about apps. The worst thing an app can do is DDoS something. That would just make you run out of data very quickly. Or auto-dial numbers (Android allows that, with a permission for which the app has to ask you), you'll just rack up an enormous bill and will learn to never make this mistake again. Or spam SMS, same thing.
        detourdog 2y ago
        Eveyone can interpret the various rules and regulations. I think you should do more research and reflection on how easy it is to be in cellular network.
        grishka 2y ago
        The "being in cellular network" is done by the modem. It's a separate CPU core that doesn't run any user code. If you jailbreak the user OS, you can send AT commands to it, which is still harmless as far as RF interference is concerned. But I really struggle to understand how any of this relates to the distribution of apps that run in sandboxes.

hot_gril 2y ago

Are you implying that macOS has a smaller market share because of the lack of restrictions? Cause its competition, Windows, is less restricted if anything.