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I'll ask here since I'm sure theres experience in the audience: it looks like theres no good answers for roblox on non-windows [1]? How about Minecraft Bedrock?

I'll ask here since I'm sure theres experience in the audience: it looks like theres no good answers for roblox on non-windows [1]? How about Minecraft Bedrock? Roblox and minecraft are the only things I really need to support in order to remove the windows install from my network. [1] - https://vinegarhq.org/Home/rol_faq.html#what-alternatives-do-we-have https://vinegarhq.org/Home/rol_faq.html#what-alternatives-do...

RedCurrent 2y ago
Unfortunately it's not possible on Linux, at least not natively. I've been there before and dual-boot windows out of exactly that reason. You can, however, use GPU passthrough and a Windows virtual machine. Another method is by using an Android emulator, though that has significant performance and QOL sacrifices attached to it.
- JamesSwift 2y ago
  It sounded like the VM was a little more finicky than I'm used to so I was trying not to go there, but I'm not super worried about performance. Its for my kids and the computer is decent. Maybe I'll just remove this computer from the family rotation and call it a day. We got plenty of other devices they can game on, including a laptop that dual-boots macOS and windows. I stay out of that windows install entirely, so who knows what junk has accumulated at this point.
  - DEADMINCE 2y ago
    VMs are easier than ever now and those simple games like won't be upset they are running in a VM. Bonus is you can have snapshots and always restore to a working state no matter what the kids do to it.
    - jjmarr 2y ago
      Roblox isn't a simple game anymore. They have a new anticheat (Byfron) that detects virtual machines and refuses to start.
      - DEADMINCE 2y ago
        It's still comparatively very simple compared to stuff like CoD. Qemu has made an advancement on being able to hide that you are in a vm. Byfron is likely only targeted at Parallels, hyperv and vmware. If you try it with qemu and follow the steps to make the vm undetectable as a vm it will probably work fine.
    - JamesSwift 2y ago
      OK I'll give it a go. It would be really nice to get everything on base-linux rather than needing this one machine to go through WSL.
      - DEADMINCE 2y ago
        I had a link I wanted to give you, one of the privacy distros had a whole guide on hiding the fact that programs were running in a vm from programs, but I can't find it right now. If I find it I'll post it again. Otherwise this[0] link might be useful. Completely agree about it shouldn't being necessary and would be nice if it wasn't. [0] https://forums.unraid.net/topic/90111-hide-os-vm-status/ https://forums.unraid.net/topic/90111-hide-os-vm-status/ Edit: Actually, I found some more links, these are what I have saved as soon I want to attempt making a Windows VM that doesn't know it's a VM. I hope these help: How to Emulate a TPM 2.0 Module on LibVirt/QEMU - https://www.smoothnet.org/qemu-tpm/ https://www.smoothnet.org/qemu-tpm/ How to Install virtio Drivers on KVM-QEMU Windows Virtual Machines - https://linuxhint.com/install_virtio_drivers_kvm_qemu_windows_vm/ https://linuxhint.com/install_virtio_drivers_kvm_qemu_window... Hiding Virtual machine status from guest operating system - https://superuser.com/a/1389159 https://superuser.com/a/1389159 The below are self-explanatory from the URL. https://serverfault.com/questions/727347/solidworks-activation-license-mode-is-not-supported-in-this-virtual-environment https://serverfault.com/questions/727347/solidworks-activati... https://www.kicksecure.com/wiki/System_identity_camouflage https://www.kicksecure.com/wiki/System_identity_camouflage https://www.kicksecure.com/wiki/CPUID https://www.kicksecure.com/wiki/CPUID https://www.whonix.org/wiki/VM_Fingerprinting https://www.whonix.org/wiki/VM_Fingerprinting https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Protocol-Leak-Protection_and_Fingerprinting-Protection https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Protocol-Leak-Protection_and_Fin...
        JamesSwift 2y ago
        Awesome, thanks!
n3storm 2y ago
My son was using vinegar and then stopped working as others said. I can't be happier after many people is exposing sketchy practices taking place in Roblox and even worse with minors. Ludopathy triggering ones for example.
zeta0134 2y ago
Minecraft Java Edition runs way smoother under Linux for some reason. It also supports mod packs, which is an endless source of renewable fun once the base game has gotten tiring. Give it a whirl, I don't miss Bedrock edition at all. Everyone on Java Edition can play together regardless of OS, where Bedrock basically requires everyone to be either on Windows or Console
- JamesSwift 2y ago
  Yeah well its for my elementary age kids so Im not really looking at coaching their friends on how to move to java and why : ) My hope is that I will equip them with the knowledge to fight that battle for me
sergeykish 2y ago
Minecraft: Bedrock Edition from Google Play https://flathub.org/apps/io.mrarm.mcpelauncher https://flathub.org/apps/io.mrarm.mcpelauncher

RedCurrent 2y ago

Unfortunately it's not possible on Linux, at least not natively. I've been there before and dual-boot windows out of exactly that reason. You can, however, use GPU passthrough and a Windows virtual machine. Another method is by using an Android emulator, though that has significant performance and QOL sacrifices attached to it.

JamesSwift 2y ago
It sounded like the VM was a little more finicky than I'm used to so I was trying not to go there, but I'm not super worried about performance. Its for my kids and the computer is decent. Maybe I'll just remove this computer from the family rotation and call it a day. We got plenty of other devices they can game on, including a laptop that dual-boots macOS and windows. I stay out of that windows install entirely, so who knows what junk has accumulated at this point.
- DEADMINCE 2y ago
  VMs are easier than ever now and those simple games like won't be upset they are running in a VM. Bonus is you can have snapshots and always restore to a working state no matter what the kids do to it.
  - jjmarr 2y ago
    Roblox isn't a simple game anymore. They have a new anticheat (Byfron) that detects virtual machines and refuses to start.
    - DEADMINCE 2y ago
      It's still comparatively very simple compared to stuff like CoD. Qemu has made an advancement on being able to hide that you are in a vm. Byfron is likely only targeted at Parallels, hyperv and vmware. If you try it with qemu and follow the steps to make the vm undetectable as a vm it will probably work fine.
  - JamesSwift 2y ago
    OK I'll give it a go. It would be really nice to get everything on base-linux rather than needing this one machine to go through WSL.
    - DEADMINCE 2y ago
      I had a link I wanted to give you, one of the privacy distros had a whole guide on hiding the fact that programs were running in a vm from programs, but I can't find it right now. If I find it I'll post it again. Otherwise this[0] link might be useful. Completely agree about it shouldn't being necessary and would be nice if it wasn't. [0] https://forums.unraid.net/topic/90111-hide-os-vm-status/ https://forums.unraid.net/topic/90111-hide-os-vm-status/ Edit: Actually, I found some more links, these are what I have saved as soon I want to attempt making a Windows VM that doesn't know it's a VM. I hope these help: How to Emulate a TPM 2.0 Module on LibVirt/QEMU - https://www.smoothnet.org/qemu-tpm/ https://www.smoothnet.org/qemu-tpm/ How to Install virtio Drivers on KVM-QEMU Windows Virtual Machines - https://linuxhint.com/install_virtio_drivers_kvm_qemu_windows_vm/ https://linuxhint.com/install_virtio_drivers_kvm_qemu_window... Hiding Virtual machine status from guest operating system - https://superuser.com/a/1389159 https://superuser.com/a/1389159 The below are self-explanatory from the URL. https://serverfault.com/questions/727347/solidworks-activation-license-mode-is-not-supported-in-this-virtual-environment https://serverfault.com/questions/727347/solidworks-activati... https://www.kicksecure.com/wiki/System_identity_camouflage https://www.kicksecure.com/wiki/System_identity_camouflage https://www.kicksecure.com/wiki/CPUID https://www.kicksecure.com/wiki/CPUID https://www.whonix.org/wiki/VM_Fingerprinting https://www.whonix.org/wiki/VM_Fingerprinting https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Protocol-Leak-Protection_and_Fingerprinting-Protection https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Protocol-Leak-Protection_and_Fin...
      - JamesSwift 2y ago
        Awesome, thanks!

n3storm 2y ago

My son was using vinegar and then stopped working as others said. I can't be happier after many people is exposing sketchy practices taking place in Roblox and even worse with minors. Ludopathy triggering ones for example.

zeta0134 2y ago

Minecraft Java Edition runs way smoother under Linux for some reason. It also supports mod packs, which is an endless source of renewable fun once the base game has gotten tiring. Give it a whirl, I don't miss Bedrock edition at all. Everyone on Java Edition can play together regardless of OS, where Bedrock basically requires everyone to be either on Windows or Console

JamesSwift 2y ago
Yeah well its for my elementary age kids so Im not really looking at coaching their friends on how to move to java and why : ) My hope is that I will equip them with the knowledge to fight that battle for me

sergeykish 2y ago

Minecraft: Bedrock Edition from Google Play https://flathub.org/apps/io.mrarm.mcpelauncher https://flathub.org/apps/io.mrarm.mcpelauncher