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The use of "many" in such contexts by journalists (and human/AI entities who choose to write like journalists, as in this case) is a shim used to make personal

The use of "many" in such contexts by journalists (and human/AI entities who choose to write like journalists, as in this case) is a shim used to make personal opinion seem more objective.

SV_BubbleTime 2y ago
And we can definitely rely on plurality of professionals. There were many (almost all) journalists and intelligence professionals that claimed the Hunter Laptop was not real… except of course it was and entered into evidence in his gun trail and conviction recently.
- mschuster91 2y ago
  The "story" was that Joe Biden had pushed Ukraine to protect Hunter Biden [1], and there was no evidence found to support that claim at all, despite multiple investigations from the FBI as well as both chambers of Congress [2]. The only thing that turned out to be true and actually criminal was that Hunter Biden acquired a gun while forbidden from doing so, for which he was recently convicted. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controversy#Ukraine_material https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controvers... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biden%E2%80%93Ukraine_conspiracy_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biden%E2%80%93Ukraine_conspira...
  - SV_BubbleTime 2y ago
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    - mschuster91 2y ago
      > There was all the crack anfter Joe spent decades enforcing laws to disproportionately punish users of that drug. Many people, on all sides of the political aisles as well as the population, supported the "war on drugs". It's not really fair to single out Joe Biden for a policy that was unquestionably popular during the time. > And the more actionable complaints that he was selling influence to Joe while complaining about his cut. And yet, not enough to be worthy of judgement by Republican-led committees. Of course, the question remains if the committees didn't see an issue because if they'd have held the Bidens to that standard, they'd have to resign en masse as well. > That Joe was involved in the businesses that Hunter had zero qualifications for. People leading businesses without being (formally) qualified to do so? If there is one thing that's a defining feature of modern capitalism, then this. > But yea, it’s OK you aren’t aware of those things. You were by design protected from those nasty truths by “the many”. And even now, if it doesn’t say it on Wikipedia, it must not be true! My POV is that when even a bunch of Republicans can't find more actionable (!) evidence of wrongdoing than illegally acquiring a gun and questionable policy decisions decades ago, the entire matter was blown up to a size it should never even have got to.
      - SV_BubbleTime 2y ago
        >Many people, on all sides of the political aisles as well as the population, supported the "war on drugs". It's not really fair to single out Joe Biden for a policy that was unquestionably popular during the time. But let’s looks at the facts, https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4802783/user-clip-joe-biden-praises-crack-possession-laws https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4802783/user-clip-joe-biden-p... >> And the more actionable complaints that he was selling influence to Joe while complaining about his cut. Right, the good old, “well there is no evidence except for the evidence that isn’t enough to convict”. These people knew exactly what they were doing and covered their tracks except for the crackhead son of course, because crackhead. You don’t need to protect him. His being a bad person doesn’t mean his opponent is a good person.
    - oopsallmagic 2y ago
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  - jonhohle 2y ago
    That’s pretty disingenuous. The story was it was Hunter’s laptop, had compromising information on Hunter (it did), had emails that detailed more involvement and knowledge of Hunter’s business by Joe than was previously disclosed, as well as a litany of other private information that was not previously known (private email addresses used by public officials). 50 intelligence officials signed a politically motivated letter to cast doubt on the authenticity of any of this[0] and the majority of media outlets inferred that it not only could be misinformation, but that it was and gaslighted anyone who alleged differently. The officials opinion was wrong from the outset, and appears to have been a screen for a very politically connected family. 0 - https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000175-4393-d7aa-af77-579f9b330000 https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000175-4393-d7aa-af77-579f9...
- oopsallmagic 2y ago
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- colingoodman 2y ago
  Could you link something showing that "almost all" journalists claimed the laptop wasn't real? Some articles from notable publications making such claims, etc.

The use of "many" in such contexts by journalists (and human/AI entities who choose to write like journalists, as in this case) is a shim used to make personal opinion seem more objective.

SV_BubbleTime 2y ago

And we can definitely rely on plurality of professionals. There were many (almost all) journalists and intelligence professionals that claimed the Hunter Laptop was not real… except of course it was and entered into evidence in his gun trail and conviction recently.

mschuster91 2y ago
The "story" was that Joe Biden had pushed Ukraine to protect Hunter Biden [1], and there was no evidence found to support that claim at all, despite multiple investigations from the FBI as well as both chambers of Congress [2]. The only thing that turned out to be true and actually criminal was that Hunter Biden acquired a gun while forbidden from doing so, for which he was recently convicted. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controversy#Ukraine_material https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controvers... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biden%E2%80%93Ukraine_conspiracy_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biden%E2%80%93Ukraine_conspira...
- SV_BubbleTime 2y ago
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  - mschuster91 2y ago
    > There was all the crack anfter Joe spent decades enforcing laws to disproportionately punish users of that drug. Many people, on all sides of the political aisles as well as the population, supported the "war on drugs". It's not really fair to single out Joe Biden for a policy that was unquestionably popular during the time. > And the more actionable complaints that he was selling influence to Joe while complaining about his cut. And yet, not enough to be worthy of judgement by Republican-led committees. Of course, the question remains if the committees didn't see an issue because if they'd have held the Bidens to that standard, they'd have to resign en masse as well. > That Joe was involved in the businesses that Hunter had zero qualifications for. People leading businesses without being (formally) qualified to do so? If there is one thing that's a defining feature of modern capitalism, then this. > But yea, it’s OK you aren’t aware of those things. You were by design protected from those nasty truths by “the many”. And even now, if it doesn’t say it on Wikipedia, it must not be true! My POV is that when even a bunch of Republicans can't find more actionable (!) evidence of wrongdoing than illegally acquiring a gun and questionable policy decisions decades ago, the entire matter was blown up to a size it should never even have got to.
    - SV_BubbleTime 2y ago
      >Many people, on all sides of the political aisles as well as the population, supported the "war on drugs". It's not really fair to single out Joe Biden for a policy that was unquestionably popular during the time. But let’s looks at the facts, https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4802783/user-clip-joe-biden-praises-crack-possession-laws https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4802783/user-clip-joe-biden-p... >> And the more actionable complaints that he was selling influence to Joe while complaining about his cut. Right, the good old, “well there is no evidence except for the evidence that isn’t enough to convict”. These people knew exactly what they were doing and covered their tracks except for the crackhead son of course, because crackhead. You don’t need to protect him. His being a bad person doesn’t mean his opponent is a good person.
  - oopsallmagic 2y ago
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- jonhohle 2y ago
  That’s pretty disingenuous. The story was it was Hunter’s laptop, had compromising information on Hunter (it did), had emails that detailed more involvement and knowledge of Hunter’s business by Joe than was previously disclosed, as well as a litany of other private information that was not previously known (private email addresses used by public officials). 50 intelligence officials signed a politically motivated letter to cast doubt on the authenticity of any of this[0] and the majority of media outlets inferred that it not only could be misinformation, but that it was and gaslighted anyone who alleged differently. The officials opinion was wrong from the outset, and appears to have been a screen for a very politically connected family. 0 - https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000175-4393-d7aa-af77-579f9b330000 https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000175-4393-d7aa-af77-579f9...
oopsallmagic 2y ago
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colingoodman 2y ago
Could you link something showing that "almost all" journalists claimed the laptop wasn't real? Some articles from notable publications making such claims, etc.