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The problem is that the EPA report doesn't say what she says it does. 1. Apple doesn't do chip fab at Scott Blvd. They did R&D for Titan and microLED screens a

The problem is that the EPA report doesn't say what she says it does. 1. Apple doesn't do chip fab at Scott Blvd. They did R&D for Titan and microLED screens and were part of the layoffs in April. 2. The EPA says that they didn't have permits WITH THE EPA, but were permitted with California and Santa Clara County/City. 3. She says the carbon filters weren't changed, not the EPA. 4. She says Apple said materials weren't hazardous waste, but the report says they were labeled "California Waste", meaning they weren't properly reporting the materials to the EPA, but were to the state of California. 5. How is it this woman was nearly killed, while the employees who WORK in the building are perfectly healthy, the next door businesses have no sick employees, and the other thousands of residents in the apartment building are also not sick? 6. Why isn't the news covering this? Why aren't they shut down? None of this makes any sense and looking at her lawsuit, she seems like she needs to serious mental help.

ClumsyPilot 2y ago
Why are you so keen to whitewash potential mishandling of dangerous chemicals and poisoning of the public? You do not appear to have any more understanding of the situation that a layman. Your points to do not sound convincing and do not engage with the issue at all. > How is it this woman was nearly killed, while the employees who WORK in the building are perfectly healthy This is quite ignorant of how this actually works. How is it possible that Union carbide plant in Bhopal killed 16,000 people in one day but most employees were perfectly healthy? > the next door businesses have no sick employees other thousands of residents in the apartment building are also not sick? You are obviously wrong, have you ever tried going around your neighbourhood and asking people: "hey, there has been consistent release of dangerous chemicals, is anyone sick?". That's a population of thousands of people, dozens of people will have bronchitis, asthma, inflammation, cancer, god knows what. How do you know if it is related to the chemical pollution? Perhaps dozens of people have felt symptoms and went to the doctor, and maybe they were diagnosed with Asthma or allergies or some other erroneous disease. Maybe they moved to the countryside by now, believing themselves to be ill. Unless someone knocks on the door, polls the residents, takes blood samples and tests them at an independent lab, conducts statistical analysis of all the medical records, etc. you have no moral right to assert this.
- PROgrammerTHREE 2y ago
  the EPA actually does monitor the area's residents because they we on Superfund site
- shotnothing 2y ago
  As you have said, neither you nor the other guy is qualified to make a technical assesment on this and we just have to wait for yhe investigations to play out. However, what we can assess is the ex-employee's actions and multitude of claims, which while in isolation seems benign, together makes her look more like a vengeful ex-employee than a credible victim
  - PROgrammerTHREE 2y ago
    And importantly, Ashley's not qualified either. She has a track record of this stuff!!
- lupusreal 2y ago
  > How is it possible that Union carbide plant in Bhopal killed 16,000 people in one day but most employees were perfectly healthy? Perfectly healthy? I doubt that. There were several casualties at least ans probably many more with long term problems.
Infinity315 2y ago
With regards to 1 and 2: This is inconsequential to what the EPA reported. It doesn't matter whether they do R&D for plushies or whatever, fact is Apple was under accounting their waste stream. > She says the carbon filters weren't changed, not the EPA. I'm going by what the EPA says and not what she says. > How is it this woman was nearly killed, while the employees who WORK in the building are perfectly healthy, the next door businesses have no sick employees, and the other thousands of residents in the apartment building are also not sick? I don't know. It's a matter worth investigating. Also, it's perfectly consistent for people inside the building to be fine whilst working inside considering the toxic fumes are vented outside the building and aren't just circulating inside it. > Why isn't the news covering this? Why aren't they shut down? This is out of my wheelhouse. I'm guessing government agencies are bit more reticent with regards to shutting down businesses unless there is a readily apparent danger to public health (i.e. something that could hold up to scrutiny in court).
- PROgrammerTHREE 2y ago
  Just for some background, the "nearly killed" thing is new. She said at first she was getting light-headed a lot and over the last 4 years it has become "almost killed." I don't think that any of this is as serious as even you are making it out to be, though I understand I misunderstood the carbon boxes thing.
  - Infinity315 2y ago
    Is every word coming out of my mouth just incomprehensible? I feel like I've been really specific. How can you possibly interpret anything I've said as me believing every word out of her mouth? ** I am strictly going off what the EPA says *** At the risk of sounding snarky, but it seems like you have a recurring pattern of just not reading what I've typed. First you've misunderstood the carbon filter and now. It's like I say X and you've heard Y and Z.

ClumsyPilot 2y ago

Why are you so keen to whitewash potential mishandling of dangerous chemicals and poisoning of the public? You do not appear to have any more understanding of the situation that a layman. Your points to do not sound convincing and do not engage with the issue at all. > How is it this woman was nearly killed, while the employees who WORK in the building are perfectly healthy This is quite ignorant of how this actually works. How is it possible that Union carbide plant in Bhopal killed 16,000 people in one day but most employees were perfectly healthy? > the next door businesses have no sick employees other thousands of residents in the apartment building are also not sick? You are obviously wrong, have you ever tried going around your neighbourhood and asking people: "hey, there has been consistent release of dangerous chemicals, is anyone sick?". That's a population of thousands of people, dozens of people will have bronchitis, asthma, inflammation, cancer, god knows what. How do you know if it is related to the chemical pollution? Perhaps dozens of people have felt symptoms and went to the doctor, and maybe they were diagnosed with Asthma or allergies or some other erroneous disease. Maybe they moved to the countryside by now, believing themselves to be ill. Unless someone knocks on the door, polls the residents, takes blood samples and tests them at an independent lab, conducts statistical analysis of all the medical records, etc. you have no moral right to assert this.

PROgrammerTHREE 2y ago
the EPA actually does monitor the area's residents because they we on Superfund site
shotnothing 2y ago
As you have said, neither you nor the other guy is qualified to make a technical assesment on this and we just have to wait for yhe investigations to play out. However, what we can assess is the ex-employee's actions and multitude of claims, which while in isolation seems benign, together makes her look more like a vengeful ex-employee than a credible victim
- PROgrammerTHREE 2y ago
  And importantly, Ashley's not qualified either. She has a track record of this stuff!!
lupusreal 2y ago
> How is it possible that Union carbide plant in Bhopal killed 16,000 people in one day but most employees were perfectly healthy? Perfectly healthy? I doubt that. There were several casualties at least ans probably many more with long term problems.

Infinity315 2y ago

With regards to 1 and 2: This is inconsequential to what the EPA reported. It doesn't matter whether they do R&D for plushies or whatever, fact is Apple was under accounting their waste stream. > She says the carbon filters weren't changed, not the EPA. I'm going by what the EPA says and not what she says. > How is it this woman was nearly killed, while the employees who WORK in the building are perfectly healthy, the next door businesses have no sick employees, and the other thousands of residents in the apartment building are also not sick? I don't know. It's a matter worth investigating. Also, it's perfectly consistent for people inside the building to be fine whilst working inside considering the toxic fumes are vented outside the building and aren't just circulating inside it. > Why isn't the news covering this? Why aren't they shut down? This is out of my wheelhouse. I'm guessing government agencies are bit more reticent with regards to shutting down businesses unless there is a readily apparent danger to public health (i.e. something that could hold up to scrutiny in court).

PROgrammerTHREE 2y ago
Just for some background, the "nearly killed" thing is new. She said at first she was getting light-headed a lot and over the last 4 years it has become "almost killed." I don't think that any of this is as serious as even you are making it out to be, though I understand I misunderstood the carbon boxes thing.
- Infinity315 2y ago
  Is every word coming out of my mouth just incomprehensible? I feel like I've been really specific. How can you possibly interpret anything I've said as me believing every word out of her mouth? ** I am strictly going off what the EPA says *** At the risk of sounding snarky, but it seems like you have a recurring pattern of just not reading what I've typed. First you've misunderstood the carbon filter and now. It's like I say X and you've heard Y and Z.