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> Many experts are skeptical about the criminal group’s announcement. The Federal Reserve is a high-profile target, and a data breach could have serious repercu

> Many experts are skeptical about the criminal group’s announcement. The Federal Reserve is a high-profile target, and a data breach could have serious repercussions. Many believe that the group’s announcement is just for attention.

nathanaldensr 2y ago
"Many." Sounds like potential propaganda to me. Who are these "many?"
- gwerbret 2y ago
  The use of "many" in such contexts by journalists (and human/AI entities who choose to write like journalists, as in this case) is a shim used to make personal opinion seem more objective.
  - SV_BubbleTime 2y ago
    And we can definitely rely on plurality of professionals. There were many (almost all) journalists and intelligence professionals that claimed the Hunter Laptop was not real… except of course it was and entered into evidence in his gun trail and conviction recently.
    - mschuster91 2y ago
      The "story" was that Joe Biden had pushed Ukraine to protect Hunter Biden [1], and there was no evidence found to support that claim at all, despite multiple investigations from the FBI as well as both chambers of Congress [2]. The only thing that turned out to be true and actually criminal was that Hunter Biden acquired a gun while forbidden from doing so, for which he was recently convicted. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controversy#Ukraine_material https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controvers... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biden%E2%80%93Ukraine_conspiracy_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biden%E2%80%93Ukraine_conspira...
      - SV_BubbleTime 2y ago
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        mschuster91 2y ago
        > There was all the crack anfter Joe spent decades enforcing laws to disproportionately punish users of that drug. Many people, on all sides of the political aisles as well as the population, supported the "war on drugs". It's not really fair to single out Joe Biden for a policy that was unquestionably popular during the time. > And the more actionable complaints that he was selling influence to Joe while complaining about his cut. And yet, not enough to be worthy of judgement by Republican-led committees. Of course, the question remains if the committees didn't see an issue because if they'd have held the Bidens to that standard, they'd have to resign en masse as well. > That Joe was involved in the businesses that Hunter had zero qualifications for. People leading businesses without being (formally) qualified to do so? If there is one thing that's a defining feature of modern capitalism, then this. > But yea, it’s OK you aren’t aware of those things. You were by design protected from those nasty truths by “the many”. And even now, if it doesn’t say it on Wikipedia, it must not be true! My POV is that when even a bunch of Republicans can't find more actionable (!) evidence of wrongdoing than illegally acquiring a gun and questionable policy decisions decades ago, the entire matter was blown up to a size it should never even have got to.
        SV_BubbleTime 2y ago
        >Many people, on all sides of the political aisles as well as the population, supported the "war on drugs". It's not really fair to single out Joe Biden for a policy that was unquestionably popular during the time. But let’s looks at the facts, https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4802783/user-clip-joe-biden-praises-crack-possession-laws https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4802783/user-clip-joe-biden-p... >> And the more actionable complaints that he was selling influence to Joe while complaining about his cut. Right, the good old, “well there is no evidence except for the evidence that isn’t enough to convict”. These people knew exactly what they were doing and covered their tracks except for the crackhead son of course, because crackhead. You don’t need to protect him. His being a bad person doesn’t mean his opponent is a good person.
    - oopsallmagic 2y ago
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    - colingoodman 2y ago
      Could you link something showing that "almost all" journalists claimed the laptop wasn't real? Some articles from notable publications making such claims, etc.

nathanaldensr 2y ago

"Many." Sounds like potential propaganda to me. Who are these "many?"

gwerbret 2y ago
The use of "many" in such contexts by journalists (and human/AI entities who choose to write like journalists, as in this case) is a shim used to make personal opinion seem more objective.
- SV_BubbleTime 2y ago
  And we can definitely rely on plurality of professionals. There were many (almost all) journalists and intelligence professionals that claimed the Hunter Laptop was not real… except of course it was and entered into evidence in his gun trail and conviction recently.
  - mschuster91 2y ago
    The "story" was that Joe Biden had pushed Ukraine to protect Hunter Biden [1], and there was no evidence found to support that claim at all, despite multiple investigations from the FBI as well as both chambers of Congress [2]. The only thing that turned out to be true and actually criminal was that Hunter Biden acquired a gun while forbidden from doing so, for which he was recently convicted. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controversy#Ukraine_material https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controvers... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biden%E2%80%93Ukraine_conspiracy_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biden%E2%80%93Ukraine_conspira...
    - SV_BubbleTime 2y ago
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      - mschuster91 2y ago
        > There was all the crack anfter Joe spent decades enforcing laws to disproportionately punish users of that drug. Many people, on all sides of the political aisles as well as the population, supported the "war on drugs". It's not really fair to single out Joe Biden for a policy that was unquestionably popular during the time. > And the more actionable complaints that he was selling influence to Joe while complaining about his cut. And yet, not enough to be worthy of judgement by Republican-led committees. Of course, the question remains if the committees didn't see an issue because if they'd have held the Bidens to that standard, they'd have to resign en masse as well. > That Joe was involved in the businesses that Hunter had zero qualifications for. People leading businesses without being (formally) qualified to do so? If there is one thing that's a defining feature of modern capitalism, then this. > But yea, it’s OK you aren’t aware of those things. You were by design protected from those nasty truths by “the many”. And even now, if it doesn’t say it on Wikipedia, it must not be true! My POV is that when even a bunch of Republicans can't find more actionable (!) evidence of wrongdoing than illegally acquiring a gun and questionable policy decisions decades ago, the entire matter was blown up to a size it should never even have got to.
        SV_BubbleTime 2y ago
        >Many people, on all sides of the political aisles as well as the population, supported the "war on drugs". It's not really fair to single out Joe Biden for a policy that was unquestionably popular during the time. But let’s looks at the facts, https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4802783/user-clip-joe-biden-praises-crack-possession-laws https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4802783/user-clip-joe-biden-p... >> And the more actionable complaints that he was selling influence to Joe while complaining about his cut. Right, the good old, “well there is no evidence except for the evidence that isn’t enough to convict”. These people knew exactly what they were doing and covered their tracks except for the crackhead son of course, because crackhead. You don’t need to protect him. His being a bad person doesn’t mean his opponent is a good person.
  - oopsallmagic 2y ago
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  - colingoodman 2y ago
    Could you link something showing that "almost all" journalists claimed the laptop wasn't real? Some articles from notable publications making such claims, etc.