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The reason i don’t buy Macs is planned obsolescence. Even if i would have mac it would still be running Linux. Might as well not waste money and buy refurbished

The reason i don’t buy Macs is planned obsolescence. Even if i would have mac it would still be running Linux. Might as well not waste money and buy refurbished pc and install Linux on it.

queuebert 2y ago
Thanks for reminding me of the hundreds of dollars of games on Steam I bought to play on Mac and now can't because I didn't realize that giving into to their Apple's incessant update nagging would completely remove support for those games.
- beretguy 2y ago
  Wow, yeah, i didn’t even know about that. That’s another reason to never use macos.
- bluescrn 2y ago
  In spite of everything else, you've got to respect MS for their commitment to backward compatibility. I still frequently run Paint Shop Pro 7 (bought way back in 2000) on Windows 10. Meanwhile, iOS games I developed in the 2012-2014 period were no longer runnable by the end of 2017 (due to the iOS transition to 64bit)
cantSpellSober 2y ago
> Even if i would have mac it would still be running Linux This was my plan, any solid distros that support the ARM64 silicon (M3 & M4 specifically) OOTB? I've concerns about support for the touchpad, webcam etc.
- TimeBearingDown 2y ago
  As of the last Asahi Linux update at the beginning of this year, they had caught up with M2 series only. https://asahilinux.org/2024/01/fedora-asahi-new/ https://asahilinux.org/2024/01/fedora-asahi-new/
HeckFeck 2y ago
It's not as bad as you think. I'm currently rocking a 2017 MBA and it's eminently usable for all my needs even with 8GB RAM. 7 year's service is fairly good for a laptop, I've only recently changed the battery. For non-gamers and lighter workloads you could easily make do with earlier models, provided they have a SSD.
- beretguy 2y ago
  > 7 year's service is fairly good for a laptop No it is not. That is a very low bar.
  - HeckFeck 2y ago
    *7 years so far.... But what's your best anyway?
    - beretguy 2y ago
      Currently using dell latitude from 2014, so it’s 10 years old. Bought it refurbished a few years ago for around $130. Upgraded its ram to 16 GB and storage to 2 TB SSD. And it has removable battery. Should last me well beyond 2030s.
      - HeckFeck 2y ago
        Interesting, I was expecting a ThinkPad. Presumably you're on Linux too. But good going, I'll formally challenge you to a race if I can remember to come back this thread. My own long-term plan is to install Linux when Apple drops support for Monterey on this hardware.
        beretguy 2y ago
        Yes, Linux. Cool! Let’s race :)

The reason i don’t buy Macs is planned obsolescence. Even if i would have mac it would still be running Linux. Might as well not waste money and buy refurbished pc and install Linux on it.

queuebert 2y ago

Thanks for reminding me of the hundreds of dollars of games on Steam I bought to play on Mac and now can't because I didn't realize that giving into to their Apple's incessant update nagging would completely remove support for those games.

beretguy 2y ago
Wow, yeah, i didn’t even know about that. That’s another reason to never use macos.
bluescrn 2y ago
In spite of everything else, you've got to respect MS for their commitment to backward compatibility. I still frequently run Paint Shop Pro 7 (bought way back in 2000) on Windows 10. Meanwhile, iOS games I developed in the 2012-2014 period were no longer runnable by the end of 2017 (due to the iOS transition to 64bit)

cantSpellSober 2y ago

> Even if i would have mac it would still be running Linux This was my plan, any solid distros that support the ARM64 silicon (M3 & M4 specifically) OOTB? I've concerns about support for the touchpad, webcam etc.

TimeBearingDown 2y ago
As of the last Asahi Linux update at the beginning of this year, they had caught up with M2 series only. https://asahilinux.org/2024/01/fedora-asahi-new/ https://asahilinux.org/2024/01/fedora-asahi-new/

HeckFeck 2y ago

It's not as bad as you think. I'm currently rocking a 2017 MBA and it's eminently usable for all my needs even with 8GB RAM. 7 year's service is fairly good for a laptop, I've only recently changed the battery. For non-gamers and lighter workloads you could easily make do with earlier models, provided they have a SSD.

beretguy 2y ago
> 7 year's service is fairly good for a laptop No it is not. That is a very low bar.
- HeckFeck 2y ago
  *7 years so far.... But what's your best anyway?
  - beretguy 2y ago
    Currently using dell latitude from 2014, so it’s 10 years old. Bought it refurbished a few years ago for around $130. Upgraded its ram to 16 GB and storage to 2 TB SSD. And it has removable battery. Should last me well beyond 2030s.
    - HeckFeck 2y ago
      Interesting, I was expecting a ThinkPad. Presumably you're on Linux too. But good going, I'll formally challenge you to a race if I can remember to come back this thread. My own long-term plan is to install Linux when Apple drops support for Monterey on this hardware.
      - beretguy 2y ago
        Yes, Linux. Cool! Let’s race :)