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This is an EPA report, presumably they do not base their findings upon any beef a whistleblower may have. And, not knowing more about the story as you seem to,

This is an EPA report, presumably they do not base their findings upon any beef a whistleblower may have. And, not knowing more about the story as you seem to, she claims her beef is based on the fact that she got sick from gases Apple was venting from this same facility. At least from what I saw on Twitter, this EPA report, in some sense, is the beef.

Gandhi_89 2y ago
I guess OP was talking about the fact the woman reporting this is in a legal fight with Apple? https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/4/22610112/apple-female-engineering-manager-leave-sexism-work-environment https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/4/22610112/apple-female-engi... Gotta say, it was a 2 minutes Google Search away, btw, so not really sure why people wouldn't take the time to search a bit before lecturing fellow users and downvoting.
microtherion 2y ago
ONE of her beeves is indeed based on this, but I believe she has also sued Apple for unrelated labor related issues. I agree that the EPA's report is based on first hand observations; OTOH I would not characterize the findings quite the same way she did. There certainly were a significant number of violations, but I don't have the context of knowing how many such violations are found in other facilities of comparable size (e.g. placing a waste container on a stack without immediately labeling it, or not having all labels in a stack be readable without rearranging containers). The regulations certainly seem sensible, but I wonder whether there are really any facilities of a certain size that manage to run without any violations whatsoever.
- cool_dude85 2y ago
  If I'm working and living next to a place with a ton of EPA violations around weird chemicals that may be dangerous, what good is it to me whether some other company elsewhere has a similar number of violations?
  - microtherion 2y ago
    Yes, but the question to me is how dangerous the dangerous is. As a comparison, if you look at a single health inspection for a single restaurant, e.g.: https://stgencep.sccgov.org/sccdineout/INSPECTIONREPORT_DADWSNBPG.pdf https://stgencep.sccgov.org/sccdineout/INSPECTIONREPORT_DADW... is that a safe place to eat or not? Do you insist on only eating in restaurants that have a score of 100?
infecto 2y ago
While there is an underlying EPA report. The site hosting it is heavily editorialized. Its hard to read it and take it as anything close to facts. I am super skeptical of companies and recognize the whole Bay Area is one giant super fund site but this person comes off as someone a bit manic. Just looking at the first all caps message.

Gandhi_89 2y ago

I guess OP was talking about the fact the woman reporting this is in a legal fight with Apple? https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/4/22610112/apple-female-engineering-manager-leave-sexism-work-environment https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/4/22610112/apple-female-engi... Gotta say, it was a 2 minutes Google Search away, btw, so not really sure why people wouldn't take the time to search a bit before lecturing fellow users and downvoting.

microtherion 2y ago

ONE of her beeves is indeed based on this, but I believe she has also sued Apple for unrelated labor related issues. I agree that the EPA's report is based on first hand observations; OTOH I would not characterize the findings quite the same way she did. There certainly were a significant number of violations, but I don't have the context of knowing how many such violations are found in other facilities of comparable size (e.g. placing a waste container on a stack without immediately labeling it, or not having all labels in a stack be readable without rearranging containers). The regulations certainly seem sensible, but I wonder whether there are really any facilities of a certain size that manage to run without any violations whatsoever.

cool_dude85 2y ago
If I'm working and living next to a place with a ton of EPA violations around weird chemicals that may be dangerous, what good is it to me whether some other company elsewhere has a similar number of violations?
- microtherion 2y ago
  Yes, but the question to me is how dangerous the dangerous is. As a comparison, if you look at a single health inspection for a single restaurant, e.g.: https://stgencep.sccgov.org/sccdineout/INSPECTIONREPORT_DADWSNBPG.pdf https://stgencep.sccgov.org/sccdineout/INSPECTIONREPORT_DADW... is that a safe place to eat or not? Do you insist on only eating in restaurants that have a score of 100?

infecto 2y ago

While there is an underlying EPA report. The site hosting it is heavily editorialized. Its hard to read it and take it as anything close to facts. I am super skeptical of companies and recognize the whole Bay Area is one giant super fund site but this person comes off as someone a bit manic. Just looking at the first all caps message.