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The gradual increase in regulation and the corresponding size of the government has everything to do with communism. How do you think we have reached 40% in mar

The gradual increase in regulation and the corresponding size of the government has everything to do with communism. How do you think we have reached 40% in marginal income tax rates?

ses1984 2y ago
Gtfo. Tax rates are much higher in other nations with a higher standard of living. Tax rates used to be much higher on higher income earners when our standard of living was relatively higher. I’m not necessarily saying we should increase taxes (we should) but your citation of that statistic means nothing.
- robertlagrant 2y ago
  You're using a different benchmark: standard of living. I'm not sure it's a good one, given it isn't necessarily that linked to taxes, but either way, you're not arguing that the government taxing more doesn't look a lot like the communist countries of the 20th century (which is what I assume what the OP meant by "communist").
  - admissionsguy 2y ago
    Pretty much. Communism is one end of a spectrum where the governments controls the entire economic activity. When the government manages 40% of my earnings, we are 40% there (to first order approximation, of course there are other factors).
    - FpUser 2y ago
      Rich do not pay 40%. Not anywhere close. Workers do. We have a system that penalizes workers explicitly and let exploiters get away. It is crony capitalism and has nothing to do with the communism which as was defined had never materialized anywhere.
      - ses1984 2y ago
        But since you’re not rich and you pay the peasant tax rate of 40%, you’re 25% closer to communism than rich people who pay about 15%, to a first approximation. Checkmate, liberal.
        admissionsguy 2y ago
        It is striking how thoughtless and vitriolic the left has become. Doesn't bode well for November, does it?
        ses1984 2y ago
        Calling the left thoughtless and vitriolic, that’s rich.
        robertlagrant 2y ago
        Why's that?
        ses1984 2y ago
        There’s no possible way you can be asking this question in good faith, but here you go anyway: > Happy Thanksgiving to ALL, including the Racist & Incompetent Attorney General of New York State, Letitia “Peekaboo” James, who has let Murder & Violent Crime FLOURISH, & Businesses FLEE; the Radical Left Trump Hating Judge, a “Psycho,” Arthur Engoron, who Criminally Defrauded the State of New York, & ME, by purposely Valuing my Assets at a “tiny” Fraction of what they are really worth in order to convict me of Fraud before even a Trial, or seeing any PROOF, & used his Politically Biased & Corrupt Campaign Finance Violator, Chief Clerk Alison Greenfield, to sit by his side on the “Bench” & tell him what to do; & Crooked Joe Biden, who has WEAPONIZED his Department of Injustice against his Political Opponent, & allowed our Country to go to HELL; & all of the other Radical Left Lunatics, Communists, Fascists, Marxists, Democrats, & RINOS, who are seriously looking to DESTROY OUR COUNTRY. Have no fear, however, we will WIN the Presidential Election of 2024, & MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!
    - FLT8 2y ago
      40% is the marginal rate. Only a very small proportion of people will be paying that, and vanishingly few will be paying that on a substantial proportion of their earnings. The average rate of taxes paid will be much more reasonable.
- itsoktocry 2y ago
  >Tax rates are much higher in other nations with a higher standard of living. The usual suspects, I assume? As a Canadian, whose country appears on these lists: yeah, sure.
FpUser 2y ago
Well if you want deregulation I'll start with all that land and patents owned by big corporations. Why the fuck should I pay money for some invention if I can come up with the one myself? Why some fuckers restricted my freedom of movement?

The gradual increase in regulation and the corresponding size of the government has everything to do with communism. How do you think we have reached 40% in marginal income tax rates?

ses1984 2y ago

Gtfo. Tax rates are much higher in other nations with a higher standard of living. Tax rates used to be much higher on higher income earners when our standard of living was relatively higher. I’m not necessarily saying we should increase taxes (we should) but your citation of that statistic means nothing.

robertlagrant 2y ago
You're using a different benchmark: standard of living. I'm not sure it's a good one, given it isn't necessarily that linked to taxes, but either way, you're not arguing that the government taxing more doesn't look a lot like the communist countries of the 20th century (which is what I assume what the OP meant by "communist").
- admissionsguy 2y ago
  Pretty much. Communism is one end of a spectrum where the governments controls the entire economic activity. When the government manages 40% of my earnings, we are 40% there (to first order approximation, of course there are other factors).
  - FpUser 2y ago
    Rich do not pay 40%. Not anywhere close. Workers do. We have a system that penalizes workers explicitly and let exploiters get away. It is crony capitalism and has nothing to do with the communism which as was defined had never materialized anywhere.
    - ses1984 2y ago
      But since you’re not rich and you pay the peasant tax rate of 40%, you’re 25% closer to communism than rich people who pay about 15%, to a first approximation. Checkmate, liberal.
      - admissionsguy 2y ago
        It is striking how thoughtless and vitriolic the left has become. Doesn't bode well for November, does it?
        ses1984 2y ago
        Calling the left thoughtless and vitriolic, that’s rich.
        robertlagrant 2y ago
        Why's that?
        ses1984 2y ago
        There’s no possible way you can be asking this question in good faith, but here you go anyway: > Happy Thanksgiving to ALL, including the Racist & Incompetent Attorney General of New York State, Letitia “Peekaboo” James, who has let Murder & Violent Crime FLOURISH, & Businesses FLEE; the Radical Left Trump Hating Judge, a “Psycho,” Arthur Engoron, who Criminally Defrauded the State of New York, & ME, by purposely Valuing my Assets at a “tiny” Fraction of what they are really worth in order to convict me of Fraud before even a Trial, or seeing any PROOF, & used his Politically Biased & Corrupt Campaign Finance Violator, Chief Clerk Alison Greenfield, to sit by his side on the “Bench” & tell him what to do; & Crooked Joe Biden, who has WEAPONIZED his Department of Injustice against his Political Opponent, & allowed our Country to go to HELL; & all of the other Radical Left Lunatics, Communists, Fascists, Marxists, Democrats, & RINOS, who are seriously looking to DESTROY OUR COUNTRY. Have no fear, however, we will WIN the Presidential Election of 2024, & MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!
  - FLT8 2y ago
    40% is the marginal rate. Only a very small proportion of people will be paying that, and vanishingly few will be paying that on a substantial proportion of their earnings. The average rate of taxes paid will be much more reasonable.
itsoktocry 2y ago
>Tax rates are much higher in other nations with a higher standard of living. The usual suspects, I assume? As a Canadian, whose country appears on these lists: yeah, sure.

FpUser 2y ago

Well if you want deregulation I'll start with all that land and patents owned by big corporations. Why the fuck should I pay money for some invention if I can come up with the one myself? Why some fuckers restricted my freedom of movement?