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NYC OMNY allows for direct payment from a debit/credit card via NFC at the turnstile. this has privacy issues but i think they're ameliorated if you use a smart

by a-dub 2y ago

NYC OMNY allows for direct payment from a debit/credit card via NFC at the turnstile. this has privacy issues but i think they're ameliorated if you use a smartphone. i think you can buy a transit payment card if you need one. no paper tickets. cool ephemera but pretty wasteful. would be pretty cool if/when we see a day where provably private cryptocurrency microtransactions allow for both real privacy and the 7 day fare cap feature.

delfinom 2y ago
Crypto isn't private as traceability is an inherent requirement for crypto to operate. Anyway with OMNY. You just buy a OMNY card and load it with cash if you want privacy. They are being slow to roll the vending machines for these out due to vendor issues but it's growing and they can't discontinue the MetroCard until they have all the vending machines in place.
- a-dub 2y ago
  > Crypto isn't private as traceability is an inherent requirement for crypto to operate. monero is a counterexample to this. i wonder how many organizations that do payroll see a timestamp and location when you tap a credit card at an omny reader? maybe it's fine and can be solved with regulation, but honestly it seems a little not great.
jasonkester 2y ago
I like London’s version of this. You can just tap your credit card or phone at any station, and it will even stop charging you after you rack up £8 in payments over the course of a day. Just pretends you had bought a day pass in the first place. Really leaves a good impression, knowing that they could have gouged you but chose not to.
- anamexis 2y ago
  New York also does this, except weekly. https://omny.info/fares https://omny.info/fares
- KineticLensman 2y ago
  Yes, super easy to use. And if you don't want to use a bankcard or phone you can buy a dedicated 'oyster' card and top it up as required. They all use the same card reader.

by a-dub 2y ago

delfinom 2y ago

Crypto isn't private as traceability is an inherent requirement for crypto to operate. Anyway with OMNY. You just buy a OMNY card and load it with cash if you want privacy. They are being slow to roll the vending machines for these out due to vendor issues but it's growing and they can't discontinue the MetroCard until they have all the vending machines in place.

a-dub 2y ago
> Crypto isn't private as traceability is an inherent requirement for crypto to operate. monero is a counterexample to this. i wonder how many organizations that do payroll see a timestamp and location when you tap a credit card at an omny reader? maybe it's fine and can be solved with regulation, but honestly it seems a little not great.

jasonkester 2y ago

I like London’s version of this. You can just tap your credit card or phone at any station, and it will even stop charging you after you rack up £8 in payments over the course of a day. Just pretends you had bought a day pass in the first place. Really leaves a good impression, knowing that they could have gouged you but chose not to.

anamexis 2y ago
New York also does this, except weekly. https://omny.info/fares https://omny.info/fares
KineticLensman 2y ago
Yes, super easy to use. And if you don't want to use a bankcard or phone you can buy a dedicated 'oyster' card and top it up as required. They all use the same card reader.