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I dont think anyone here thinks it is a conspiracy. And I'm sure everyone here expects apple to take proper responsibility. But whataboutism about other compan
by ohmyiv 2y ago
I dont think anyone here thinks it is a conspiracy. And I'm sure everyone here expects apple to take proper responsibility.
But whataboutism about other companies doesn't hide the fact that there were/are violations.
This isn't gonna kill apple, don't worry nor will it permanently tarnish their reputation you're so worried about. But it is a big deal when they do spout green initiatives then get busted for stuff like this. Notice some of those dates? How absent does corporate have to be to allow stuff like this? Months and months on end with no real inspections?
If Apple was as green as they say, this wouldn't have happened in the first place. They would understand these types of messes. So while the main cause may fall on some of the daily employees, where was management? Why weren't they doing their job as responsible environmental stewards as their image upholds?
Again, IMO this isn't _that_ big of a deal so long as they stop those practices and get their stuff together. No amount of handwaving/whataboutisms is going to change this. Just accept that they got busted messing up and move on. Don't try to play it off and minimize stuff.
- insaneirish 2y ago> Just accept that they got busted messing up and move on. Don't try to play it off and minimize stuff. I'm actually not minimizing it. I'm simply pointing out that if this is the industry at its best, then yeesh, what is it at its worst?
- dang 2y agoPlease make your substantive points without canned arguments / internet tropes like 'whataboutism'. This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. https://hn.algolia.com/?query=whataboutism%20by:dang&dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?query=whataboutism%20by:dang&dateRan...