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>> The idea that buses must be enormous vehicles belching along the roadway packed with people is an anachronism. Oh, absolutely. I've been taking buses (and t

>> The idea that buses must be enormous vehicles belching along the roadway packed with people is an anachronism. Oh, absolutely. I've been taking buses (and trains, and trams, and trolleys) all my life and I've never been on an enormous vehicle belching along the roadway packed with people. Where does that imagery come from? Mad Max? Where I live now, in the UK, buses look like this: https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/buses/ https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/buses/ You can see the people beside the bus for size comparison. I don't have the exact numbers but the typical double-decker takes about 5/3s the space on the road that an SUV takes and a substantial fraction are electric or hybrid, so no, I don't think your maths pan out. Edit: btw a single-decker EV bus will set you back ~£340,000. Hybrids and hydrogen cell ones are more expensive, around £500k (around $590k). Dirty petrol and diesel double deckers cost £20-30k but those are no longer allowed according to the mayor's green policy: https://www.mylondon.news/news/zone-1-news/how-much-london-bus-actually-22355188 https://www.mylondon.news/news/zone-1-news/how-much-london-b... What bus is it that costs $1 million?

fnordpiglet 2y ago
An example: Earlier this month, The Denver Gazette reported two of the four e-buses Colorado Springs' Mountain Metropolitan Transit acquired in 2021 are not running. They cost $1.2 million a piece, mostly paid for by government grants. https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/electric-buses-sitting-unused-cities-across-the-us https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/electric-buses-sitting-... A London double decker is 30 feet long https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-average-length-of-a-London-double-decker-bus https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-average-length-of-a-London... (I had better PDF specs but was loading slowly) A suburban - a massive SUV is 18ft long. This is not a normal SUV though. Where I am, in seattle, buses are from 60 ft to 30 ft long. This is the same as a London bus, but the double length buses are pretty common too. https://metro.kingcounty.gov/advisory-groups/service-guidelines-task-force/pdf/notebook/10-notebook-metro-background.pdf https://metro.kingcounty.gov/advisory-groups/service-guideli...

fnordpiglet 2y ago

An example: Earlier this month, The Denver Gazette reported two of the four e-buses Colorado Springs' Mountain Metropolitan Transit acquired in 2021 are not running. They cost $1.2 million a piece, mostly paid for by government grants. https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/electric-buses-sitting-unused-cities-across-the-us https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/electric-buses-sitting-... A London double decker is 30 feet long https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-average-length-of-a-London-double-decker-bus https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-average-length-of-a-London... (I had better PDF specs but was loading slowly) A suburban - a massive SUV is 18ft long. This is not a normal SUV though. Where I am, in seattle, buses are from 60 ft to 30 ft long. This is the same as a London bus, but the double length buses are pretty common too. https://metro.kingcounty.gov/advisory-groups/service-guidelines-task-force/pdf/notebook/10-notebook-metro-background.pdf https://metro.kingcounty.gov/advisory-groups/service-guideli...