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The lure and convenience of modern IDEs is too much to let that happen at least in my case. The trouble here is that even though the productivity will eventual

by pyeri 2y ago

The lure and convenience of modern IDEs is too much to let that happen at least in my case. The trouble here is that even though the productivity will eventually increase, the learning curve will take too much of a tool. Yet I'm determined to give vim a solid chance soon once my current projects are over.

pkulak 2y ago
Just install the keybindings. Then you can use those on any IDE on any OS forever. And Vim, of course. :)
numbers 2y ago
You could try getting familiar with the basics of vim and then continue using your IDE. This is how I use vim. It’s great for quick edits and ssh boxes but I’m not a fan of maintaining all the plugins and settings manually so I have a barebones vim setup.
- zer00eyz 2y ago
  This! I don't need to turn vim into an IDE, and nor do I want to. However VIM is an amazing tool that's worth learning on its own merit. It's the text editor that's everywhere you need it to be, and I have never had an admin say "NO" to adding it into a box or environment to work/test.
- moffkalast 2y ago
  You know what's also great for quick edits and ssh boxes? Nano. No learning curve and it's perfectly cromulent.
- nextos 2y ago
  Same happens to Emacs. The complexity of Emacs is grossly exaggerated. You can get around with relatively little know-how. The problem is that knowing what you need to know is not easy. Most tutorials, including the official one, focus too much on details and too little on concepts to get you bootstrapped.
exe34 2y ago
I started using emacs about 8 years ago. Every 6 months or so, I spend 10 minutes learning a new feature and curse myself for not learning it 25 years ago.
- medstrom 2y ago
  Think of learning emacs features as catching pokemon. You must catch a few hundred before you think of slowing down. Else you easily stall in a limbo of "good enough".
  - exe34 2y ago
    I'm definitely in the good enough local minimum, I think it's just because I'm older now and futzing with configs doesn't excite me as much as it used to as a younger man. I do love the stability and wide coverage of all my needs though, I never need another text editor in my life.
cepem 2y ago
I was in the same boat as I mentioned in the article, have you thought about trying a vim plugin for the current IDE you're using?

by pyeri 2y ago

pkulak 2y ago

Just install the keybindings. Then you can use those on any IDE on any OS forever. And Vim, of course. :)

numbers 2y ago

You could try getting familiar with the basics of vim and then continue using your IDE. This is how I use vim. It’s great for quick edits and ssh boxes but I’m not a fan of maintaining all the plugins and settings manually so I have a barebones vim setup.

zer00eyz 2y ago
This! I don't need to turn vim into an IDE, and nor do I want to. However VIM is an amazing tool that's worth learning on its own merit. It's the text editor that's everywhere you need it to be, and I have never had an admin say "NO" to adding it into a box or environment to work/test.
moffkalast 2y ago
You know what's also great for quick edits and ssh boxes? Nano. No learning curve and it's perfectly cromulent.
nextos 2y ago
Same happens to Emacs. The complexity of Emacs is grossly exaggerated. You can get around with relatively little know-how. The problem is that knowing what you need to know is not easy. Most tutorials, including the official one, focus too much on details and too little on concepts to get you bootstrapped.

exe34 2y ago

I started using emacs about 8 years ago. Every 6 months or so, I spend 10 minutes learning a new feature and curse myself for not learning it 25 years ago.

medstrom 2y ago
Think of learning emacs features as catching pokemon. You must catch a few hundred before you think of slowing down. Else you easily stall in a limbo of "good enough".
- exe34 2y ago
  I'm definitely in the good enough local minimum, I think it's just because I'm older now and futzing with configs doesn't excite me as much as it used to as a younger man. I do love the stability and wide coverage of all my needs though, I never need another text editor in my life.

cepem 2y ago

I was in the same boat as I mentioned in the article, have you thought about trying a vim plugin for the current IDE you're using?