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This article definitely flipped my "let's assume this is bullshit until proven otherwise" bit. That bit really ought to be on by default, come to think of it.
by karaterobot 2y ago
This article definitely flipped my "let's assume this is bullshit until proven otherwise" bit. That bit really ought to be on by default, come to think of it.
I think about this quote when reading articles like this (to say nothing of the research it draws on):
> The best way to identify sketchy scientific claims is by their level of abstraction.... if a new paper claims that attractive people are more (or less) generous than ugly people, I would be highly suspicious. “Generosity” is a very abstract and nebulous quality, and I would want to know how it was measured...The profound abstractions of everyday life—happiness, relationships, sleep, nutrition, motivation, pain, belonging—are the concepts most vulnerable to scientific abuse. (https://worksinprogress.co/issue/how-trust-undermines-science/ https://worksinprogress.co/issue/how-trust-undermines-scienc...)
The phrase "hurts children's brains" seems almost ludicrously abstract to me, so it's a little suspicious from the get go.
Then I get to their examples. The example of a train track literally running next to a classroom is one thing—I can see that being a problem—but it's a bit different than being next to a city street, which is where the article immediately pivots. Is the average classroom so loud that people physically cannot concentrate? Quoting studies that say that loud classrooms affect student performance doesn't demonstrate that most classrooms are too loud to concentrate, and that anything needs to be done about it. And even if classrooms in Barcelona are all too loud to concentrate, that says nothing about classrooms anywhere else—not even anywhere else in Spain, let alone the entire world. Blegh.
- kiba 2y agoNoise pollution affecting children(or adults) in negatives ways is not an exactly an original claim that the paper make nor is it the first one to say so. It would be like a paper claiming that exercise is good for you, which is heavily supported by robust evidence and mountain of papers.
- karaterobot 2y agoAs I said, it's not really a question of whether noise pollution has negative effects, the thing they should have tried to demonstrate was that a lot of students are currently, in reality, being affected by it. In your analogy, it's like they're saying that slippery kettlebells are extremely dangerous—people can really get hurt by them—and shouldn't somebody do something to make sure kettlebells aren't slippery? Nobody's doubting that dropping a kettlebell on your foot would be bad, the question is whether slippery kettlebells are a plague that's ruining today's gyms or not. Maybe it really is a problem, but you've got to address that point. You can't just go from "a hypothetical threat exists" to "let's take drastic steps to solve it".