> This might be true now, but it wasn't when all these massive highways, roads and stroads were built. I guess that depends a bit on how far back still include

> This might be true now, but it wasn't when all these massive highways, roads and stroads were built. I guess that depends a bit on how far back still includes 'now'. Portland is the nearest big(ish) city to me, and they absolutely killed road expansion about 40 years ago; that is when most of the freeways and major arterials in the area were being built out. There have been a few small extensions built since, a bit of widening now and then, but they are the exception and they take many years to get buy-in.