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Unfortunately, youngsters can lock themselves in any car. It's not something unique to electric cars or Tesla. E.g. https://www.google.com/search?q=child+locke

by nomilk 2y ago

Unfortunately, youngsters can lock themselves in any car. It's not something unique to electric cars or Tesla. E.g. https://www.google.com/search?q=child+locked+themselves+in+car&tbm=nws https://www.google.com/search?q=child+locked+themselves+in+c...

Jtsummers 2y ago
But most other cars have physical locks that can be unlocked from the outside and a handle that doesn't require a still-charged 12-volt battery. You may need to call a locksmith (for instance, the keys are also inside the car), but you probably don't have to bust open the windows unless it's really urgent and you need to get them out now (instead of 20-30 minutes from now).
chgs 2y ago
People who lock the key in the car with the child. Not remotely the same.
- Turing_Machine 2y ago
  How is it "not remotely the same"? In both cases the child is in the car and the door cannot be opened. In my city, the fire department solves the problem by bashing out a window, just as in this case. I know this because that's what happened when a friend locked in her baby. That seems more like "exactly the same" than "not remotely the same" to me. I'll bet it happens dozens of times across the country every single day.
  - chgs 2y ago
    One is due to the carelessness of the driver. The other is due to a failure in the car.
    - Turing_Machine 2y ago
      You can't open the door if you don't have the key You can't open the door if the battery is dead (or, presumably, the battery has removed by a would-be car thief). I'm not sure why one of these is a "failure of the car" but not the other. If the Tesla cars defaulted to "doors open" when the battery was dead/removed, people would be complaining about that. In both cases, the end outcome is exactly the same: the window gets bashed out by the fire department.
happytoexplain 2y ago
It's very hard to give this comment the benefit of the doubt - the obvious critical difference is not buried in the details, and it's disturbing to see it casually ignored, given the context.
- Turing_Machine 2y ago
  The "critical difference" here is that in other cases the car wasn't manufactured by Elon Musk, the currently-designated Emmanuel Goldstein who needs to be the focus of a Two Minutes Hate every time his name is mentioned. Edit: when a friend of mine locked her kid inside a conventional car a number of years ago, and the fire department broke the window, I assure you the incident did not even make the local news, much less go national.

by nomilk 2y ago

Jtsummers 2y ago

But most other cars have physical locks that can be unlocked from the outside and a handle that doesn't require a still-charged 12-volt battery. You may need to call a locksmith (for instance, the keys are also inside the car), but you probably don't have to bust open the windows unless it's really urgent and you need to get them out now (instead of 20-30 minutes from now).

chgs 2y ago

People who lock the key in the car with the child. Not remotely the same.

Turing_Machine 2y ago
How is it "not remotely the same"? In both cases the child is in the car and the door cannot be opened. In my city, the fire department solves the problem by bashing out a window, just as in this case. I know this because that's what happened when a friend locked in her baby. That seems more like "exactly the same" than "not remotely the same" to me. I'll bet it happens dozens of times across the country every single day.
- chgs 2y ago
  One is due to the carelessness of the driver. The other is due to a failure in the car.
  - Turing_Machine 2y ago
    You can't open the door if you don't have the key You can't open the door if the battery is dead (or, presumably, the battery has removed by a would-be car thief). I'm not sure why one of these is a "failure of the car" but not the other. If the Tesla cars defaulted to "doors open" when the battery was dead/removed, people would be complaining about that. In both cases, the end outcome is exactly the same: the window gets bashed out by the fire department.

happytoexplain 2y ago

It's very hard to give this comment the benefit of the doubt - the obvious critical difference is not buried in the details, and it's disturbing to see it casually ignored, given the context.

Turing_Machine 2y ago
The "critical difference" here is that in other cases the car wasn't manufactured by Elon Musk, the currently-designated Emmanuel Goldstein who needs to be the focus of a Two Minutes Hate every time his name is mentioned. Edit: when a friend of mine locked her kid inside a conventional car a number of years ago, and the fire department broke the window, I assure you the incident did not even make the local news, much less go national.